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2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing #8379200
04/03/25 06:32 PM
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One of my favorite things about this place is the broad spectrum of knowledge. Figured I’d throw this out there, see what you all come up with.
It’s arrow building time . In the past , I’ve used 2” of 2117 shafts to “foot” the end of my shafts to reinforce a weak point on carbon arrows . It’s a system that’s been working great for me and I’ve been able to achieve a tune where it doesn’t matter whether my shafts are fletched or not . They all impact the same and they’re very tough .Happy with it .

Problem is I’ve run out of 2117 shafts to cut for footing and nobody sells individual shafts anymore. Of course , I could order a dozen shafts to cut as needed , but , to build two dozen arrows only need two or three to cut into 2” sections. I hate buying more than what I need , might be where I end up , anyway.

Is there aluminum tubing that would meet a similar specification as 2117 ? The inner diameter comes in at a little more than 5/16” with a weight of 12 grains per inch .
Any suggestions ?
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Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8379205
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Ebay?


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Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8379206
04/03/25 06:42 PM
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What are u shooting that you need re-inforced carbon shafts?


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Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: hippie] #8379207
04/03/25 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
Ebay?


I haven't had any luck with Ebay . Plus, I've come across deals where the shipping cost more than the actual item.


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Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8379213
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I hear ya.


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Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8379215
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
What are u shooting that you need re-inforced carbon shafts?


Well, I launch them at everything . I love carbon . But if it's going to break , it's going to be right behind the head. Its a simple fix but the products they make to address it ( outserts and half-outs) don't really address the issue. The footing does, however. Pigs or deer, if the shaft snaps, it'll do it after the broadhead has done it's job.


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Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8379220
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Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Wolfdog91] #8379221
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
A fan of adult arrows I see smile


Yes , sir. Yes, I am. Lol


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Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8379226
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Aluminum specifications are generally called out in decimals, wether it be in inches or mm.
It will help you in finding the right tubing rather than trying to refer to it in fractions or an inch.


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Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8379239
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If you are interest in used shafts I dug up a few. Mixed gamegetter, xx75.

Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8379250
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3 Rivers archery is showing 2117 in stock. They are a great company to deal with and great service.

Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8379256
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2117.
First two numbers are the diameter of the shaft in 64ths.
Last two numbers are the thickness of the shaft in thousands.
So, 2117= A shaft with a diameter of 21/64ths or .328 thousands and a wall thickness of .017 thousands.
You said the shaft was just a little bigger that 5/16th. 5/16ths shaft measures .312 thousands.


Walmart use to have a bin of arrows that you could buy one at a time, (not a matched set). I use to see 2117 arrows in for sale like that.
Got an archery shop close? They could likely fix you up. Online archery shops would be worth a call too.

Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8379282
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I've never had a carbon shafts break that close to the front end. But all I've shot with them are about 100 plus whitetails and a couple dozen feral hogs.

Most snap mid-shaft.....if they break at all. Pass-thrus rarely damage the shafts, but if arrow stays in...90% of time it'll get snapped.


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Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8379407
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Yep
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
I've never had a carbon shafts break that close to the front end. But all I've shot with them are about 100 plus whitetails and a couple dozen feral hogs.

Most snap mid-shaft.....if they break at all. Pass-thrus rarely damage the shafts, but if arrow stays in...90% of time it'll get snapped.

Same here, not 100 deer but lots of deer, always seem to break the last few inches or the last 1/3 of the arrow. Unless i miss my target and hit the concrete foundation.


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Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8379414
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I was gonna say holler at backroadsarcher.. but he's already here.. lol


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Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Sasquatch91] #8379445
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch91
Yep
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
I've never had a carbon shafts break that close to the front end. But all I've shot with them are about 100 plus whitetails and a couple dozen feral hogs.

Most snap mid-shaft.....if they break at all. Pass-thrus rarely damage the shafts, but if arrow stays in...90% of time it'll get snapped.

Same here, not 100 deer but lots of deer, always seem to break the last few inches or the last 1/3 of the arrow. Unless i miss my target and hit the concrete foundation.


Hear ya , both . That said , I’ll never see beefing up the front as a bad thing .
There’s a side benefit to it ; I shoot 30” arrows with the 2” footing . When I draw 28” , that footing will hit my rest . I feel a little ‘tap’ , which acts like a draw check or ‘clicker’. My draw length , when executed right with solid back tension , is right around 28.5” . That little tap has really aided my accuracy.


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Re: 2117 shafts vs aluminum tubing [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8379662
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