I’m familiar with that area. Not thoroughly, but I cut timber in a unit on eagle creek about 10 years ago, it wasn’t too far from Leavenworth. That’s why I have to remind myself once in a while that I’m okay without chew or caffeine. Actually between the two, being without caffeine hurts me worse.

A few beers on special occasions and that's all it takes, but lots of coffee 3 o 4 cups a day keeps me going and getting things done.

There are and were many alcoholics in my family, including me, my father, uncles, great uncles, and cousins. It is one thing to get sober or quit drinking it is another whole issue to deal with all the "isms" that come with addictive behavior. Getting out of one's self is really important for me to do and do every day.

Bryce

Crazy. Why's everyone say you drink so much koolaid then?

My next youngest brother got married at Wenatchee by the Chiwawa River on September 10th 2001. I saw the only wild mountain lion I've ever seen there. I doubt it weighed much more than 60 pounds. It seemed like it was mostly tail when it jumped across the path in front of me. I found a bear's den under some blown down pine trees, by the salmon counter on the river. The den had two chambers right next to each other. I think it probably connected like a U. There was hair in it.

Myself and the other single groomsmen went hunting Sasquatch women in Leavenworth, with limited success. We went to a brewery/bar that served beer samples on boards.

My brother and his family have a house on the lake, that they fixed up, that's belonged to his wife's mother's family for years. His wife's aunt and uncle ran some cabins there, including the one we stayed at. They had a nuisance bear, that was tearing into cabins, removed a week or so before the wedding

It's a beautiful and sparsely populated area.

Keith

Most everyone I talked to around Wenatchee was into hunting and hated that the West side of the state controlled the wildlife regulations. A lot of people were unhappy that the state was looking into reintroducing grizzly bears in the area. There were signs all along the Chiwawa River threatening fines and imprisonment for fishing, or even throwing a rock in the river, because it was a salmon breeding site.

You did them a favor bagging the hippies. I don't think they would have been well liked.

Eastern Washington looked like a great place for quail hunting. There were flocks of valley quail all over the place in the towns, mostly hanging out at bird feeders.

I would like to get out there again.

Keith

Surely the hippies Savell killed were relatives of yours and his, though no?

Just hope in that truck and get more,,,,don’t hit that tree again ,,,Please…

It's best to be prepared.

Keith

addicted to my wife.

I find that I tolerate so much more from her than I would from anyone else. That addiction has produced two daughters and grandchildren. Its ran me broke, I have more gray hair than most guys my age, and forty + years has trained me to finally say "Yes Dear" very fluently.

One addiction that nobody seems talks about is "Food Addiction". Probably been more people killed from food addiction than most other forms. All you have to do is look around to see it's rampant. Think of the medical costs associated with obesity?

energy drinks . . drink 2 a day most days . . can't be good for ya

Lost my baby girl to Fentanyl.
Setting at addiction group meeting as I type.
This is support for stepdaughter who hit bottom 8-9 months ago.
I think the hardest part currently is learning how to support and not enable.
If you have similar concerns.
Don't be afraid to ask for help with your part also.
God bless everyone who is going through it.
Family and friends

I feel blessed reading about all these broken down people

brother in law was drinking so many so long he ended up in the hospital. heard about it 4th hand so have no details but no they atr not good for you