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Re: blue state again [Re: Vinke] #8388158
04/16/25 04:39 PM
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Non compliance is the only way to combat unconstitutional legislation. We also need to hold our representatives accountable and ensure we’re actually represented. Also a key point to bring up here, we are a republic (meaning we as citizens have rights that can’t be taken, not even by government order, nor a majority vote)

Re: blue state again [Re: AK Timber Tramp] #8388176
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Originally Posted by AK Timber Tramp
Non compliance is the only way to combat unconstitutional legislation. We also need to hold our representatives accountable and ensure we’re actually represented. Also a key point to bring up here, we are a republic (meaning we as citizens have rights that can’t be taken, not even by government order, nor a majority vote)

But it can't be just one guy. If I go walk down the street in DC with a 12" barrel AR stuffed with a homemade lightning link, I'm gonna get arrested, and if I resist I'll end up dead. Heck, in DC they'll probably just skip straight to the killin me part. But if 100,000 of us did it together.......

Re: blue state again [Re: loosegoose] #8388186
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by AK Timber Tramp
Non compliance is the only way to combat unconstitutional legislation. We also need to hold our representatives accountable and ensure we’re actually represented. Also a key point to bring up here, we are a republic (meaning we as citizens have rights that can’t be taken, not even by government order, nor a majority vote)

But it can't be just one guy. If I go walk down the street in DC with a 12" barrel AR stuffed with a homemade lightning link, I'm gonna get arrested, and if I resist I'll end up dead. Heck, in DC they'll probably just skip straight to the killin me part. But if 100,000 of us did it together.......

Yeah, when I said noncompliance I meant everyone. Look at the pistol brace fiasco, they said turn them in by this date or you’re automatically a felon, and exactly nobody turned one in, so they went back to the drawing board. Also, a large portion of law enforcement officers won’t enforce laws they don’t believe are constitutional.

Re: blue state again [Re: Vinke] #8388572
04/17/25 10:38 AM
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Another overlooked problem is the state will raise the cost to get thru the shooting class,fingerprint cards and the permit it's self.In Wa state there making hunting and fishing a rich mans sport. Combo hunting and fishing license is 147.00 ,a deer tag is 44.50,41.60 for a trapping license in addition to the combo hunting and fishing license you still need a small game license at 40.50. If your taking your kid hunting they get a break the cost is about half and for fishing anyone 15 and older has to have a license.Almost every year license fees increase.



Re: blue state again [Re: Shakeyjake] #8389070
04/18/25 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
There's too many gun owners that don't take any responsibly.
Is there anything wrong with this?
"an applicant for a CPL (concealed pistol license) must provide proof of completion of a certified concealed carry firearms safety training program. The certified programs must include live-fire shooting exercises on a firing range that include a demonstration by the applicant of the safe handling of, and shooting proficiency with, firearms. Live-fire training for the concealed carry firearms safety training program must include firing of a minimum of 50 rounds."
Thank irresponsible gun owners for dumping gas on the fire.

"Shall Not Be Infringed"

That's whats important to us.


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Re: blue state again [Re: Vinke] #8389079
04/18/25 10:47 AM
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^^^^ wow,,,, so a woman that is fear of something/someone should wait?
Highway of Tears comes to my mind……


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just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: blue state again [Re: 70sdiver] #8389133
04/18/25 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 70sdiver
Another overlooked problem is the state will raise the cost to get thru the shooting class,fingerprint cards and the permit it's self.In Wa state there making hunting and fishing a rich mans sport. Combo hunting and fishing license is 147.00 ,a deer tag is 44.50,41.60 for a trapping license in addition to the combo hunting and fishing license you still need a small game license at 40.50. If your taking your kid hunting they get a break the cost is about half and for fishing anyone 15 and older has to have a license.Almost every year license fees increase.


Are those resident permit prices?
Good lord that’s ridiculous if it is.

Re: blue state again [Re: Vinke] #8389203
04/18/25 04:14 PM
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plenty of room here in Texas Vinke. Come on down and join the real American folk

Re: blue state again [Re: Vinke] #8389517
04/19/25 07:06 AM
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1 its a gun law, makes it unconstitutional according to the 2nd amendment
2 violates the SC Marbury V. Madison decision of 1878 which states "any law repugnant of the US constitution is null and void".

Re: blue state again [Re: Vinke] #8389640
04/19/25 10:53 AM
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Can you people handle the bad news?

"The Heller decision did not invalidate all gun laws; it affirmed that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess firearms for lawful purposes, including self-defense within the home, but it also recognized that this right is not unlimited.
The Supreme Court emphasized that certain types of gun control measures are permissible, such as laws prohibiting firearm possession by felons and people with dangerous mental illnesses, laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places like schools, and regulations on gun sales."


Who is John Galt?
Re: blue state again [Re: Dirt] #8389717
04/19/25 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Can you people handle the bad news?

"The Heller decision did not invalidate all gun laws; it affirmed that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess firearms for lawful purposes, including self-defense within the home, but it also recognized that this right is not unlimited.
The Supreme Court emphasized that certain types of gun control measures are permissible, such as laws prohibiting firearm possession by felons and people with dangerous mental illnesses, laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places like schools, and regulations on gun sales."



At one time, the supreme court also said that "separate but equal" (plessy v fergusen) was okay and that blacks can't be citizens (dredd scott v sanford). Sometimes they get it wrong. They got it wrong in the heller case, too.

Re: blue state again [Re: Vinke] #8389726
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Originally Posted by Vinke
The Washington state Senate passed a bill on Monday that would require gun buyers to get a permit and take live fire training.

House Bill 1163 will return to the House for concurrence before heading to Gov. Bob Ferguson's desk to be signed or vetoed.

Under current state law, all firearm sales are subject to background checks conducted by the Washington State Patrol, mandatory waiting periods, and completion of a firearm safety program.

Do the same for voting, but that would thwart the Democrat narrative. A permit to a constitutional right (owning a firearm) and they oppose a permit (ID) to vote.

Re: blue state again [Re: Vinke] #8389766
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Originally Posted by Vinke
The Washington state Senate passed a bill on Monday that would require gun buyers to get a permit and take live fire training.

House Bill 1163 will return to the House for concurrence before heading to Gov. Bob Ferguson's desk to be signed or vetoed.

Under current state law, all firearm sales are subject to background checks conducted by the Washington State Patrol, mandatory waiting periods, and completion of a firearm safety program.


Meanwhile, Iowa's governor just signed a law lowering the age to own and carry a handgun to 18.

Re: blue state again [Re: Vinke] #8389776
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We as citizens tend to focus too much on the 2nd amendment’s implications towards firearms, but it goes far beyond that. The 2nd amendment was written with the intention that the citizens should be equally as armed as our military, allowing us to overthrow potential dictators (or at least giving us a fair fight). So the military industrial complex has rendered the 2nd amendment as a protection for our little toys we use for self defense or hunting, but it has absolutely lost its intended purpose, our government has us way outgunned

Re: blue state again [Re: AK Timber Tramp] #8389783
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Originally Posted by AK Timber Tramp
We as citizens tend to focus too much on the 2nd amendment’s implications towards firearms, but it goes far beyond that. The 2nd amendment was written with the intention that the citizens should be equally as armed as our military, allowing us to overthrow potential dictators (or at least giving us a fair fight). So the military industrial complex has rendered the 2nd amendment as a protection for our little toys we use for self defense or hunting, but it has absolutely lost its intended purpose, our government has us way outgunned


Well said. All arms not just guns. Armed F35 to knifes and swords.


now where can I order a few cases of m203 that not just chalk marker rounds grenades and claymores?

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Re: blue state again [Re: AK Timber Tramp] #8389865
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Originally Posted by AK Timber Tramp
We as citizens tend to focus too much on the 2nd amendment’s implications towards firearms, but it goes far beyond that. The 2nd amendment was written with the intention that the citizens should be equally as armed as our military, allowing us to overthrow potential dictators (or at least giving us a fair fight). So the military industrial complex has rendered the 2nd amendment as a protection for our little toys we use for self defense or hunting, but it has absolutely lost its intended purpose, our government has us way outgunned

This. The 2a isn't about shooting deer or bad guys that break into your house into the middle of the night. It's about retaining the ability to shoot police officers and soldiers in the event of the overthrow of a tyrannical government.

Re: blue state again [Re: loosegoose] #8389900
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by AK Timber Tramp
We as citizens tend to focus too much on the 2nd amendment’s implications towards firearms, but it goes far beyond that. The 2nd amendment was written with the intention that the citizens should be equally as armed as our military, allowing us to overthrow potential dictators (or at least giving us a fair fight). So the military industrial complex has rendered the 2nd amendment as a protection for our little toys we use for self defense or hunting, but it has absolutely lost its intended purpose, our government has us way outgunned

This. The 2a isn't about shooting deer or bad guys that break into your house into the middle of the night. It's about retaining the ability to shoot police officers and soldiers in the event of the overthrow of a tyrannical government.

That’s what I said. Guns are great, but in the true spirit of the 2A, you’d need much heavier firepower if our government turned on us.

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