Re: Alcohol
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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04/16/25 09:17 PM
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Let's consider wine/beer/liquor from a non religious point of view. No Bible. No Jesus.
What is the purpose of alcohol in this context? It makes me better looking, funnier and bullet proof. I am not seeing a downside here.
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: Dirt]
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04/16/25 09:19 PM
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Walmart women are blessed with children thanks to alcohol.  . SO true. I was waiting for a checkup at women doctor and I see these “females” sitting there in flip flops and tank tops with their greasy hair in a bun and I’m like who is touching these women to get them pregnant?
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: elsmasho82]
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04/16/25 09:21 PM
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Walmart women are blessed with children thanks to alcohol.  . SO true. I was waiting for a checkup at women doctor and I see these “females” sitting there in flip flops and tank tops with their greasy hair in a bun and I’m like who is touching these women to get them pregnant? They all get better looking at closing time. 
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: elsmasho82]
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04/16/25 09:21 PM
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Walmart women are blessed with children thanks to alcohol.  . SO true. I was waiting for a checkup at women doctor and I see these “females” sitting there in flip flops and tank tops with their greasy hair in a bun and I’m like who is touching these women to get them pregnant? Public toilet seats got them pregnant. Grandma told me all about it when I was a kid. If you eat a white watermelon seed, that will get you pregnant too.
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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04/16/25 09:36 PM
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Civilizations saved grape juice and made mead with fermentation as the preservative. With all the diseases back then alcohol was safer because the alcohol kept the wine and mead safer to drink than water. Again from a non religious context.
Today alcohol has no "safety" issue it is saving you from. Water and other drinks that line the grocery store shelves are safe to drink.
This leaves me with only one conclusion as to why people drink alcohol in this day and time. I know of no beer wine or liquor I would drink over a coke, tea or apple juice.
And physical health speaking, alcohol is one of the worst things you can put in your body.
Again, all of these points of view are sans religion of any kind. Cold beer Is hard to beat especially after a day working in the sun during summer. Now Sam Adam's October fest is about the absolutely best breakfast beer paring if your having bacon and eggs or sausage.. Now I seldom drink much beer even when I would maybe a case a year. But I will argue with you that coke is worst for your body than a beer.
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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04/16/25 10:00 PM
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I know of no beer wine or liquor I would drink over a coke, tea or apple juice.
Glad I aint you.
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: J Staton]
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04/16/25 11:00 PM
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I would rather funnel Mickey's Big mouths than drink unsweet tea. That stuff is nasty. Yep
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: AntiGov]
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04/17/25 12:06 AM
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The debil lives in them bottles ... use caution 1000%. You will find out if you and your family can handle you, in short order, or over time.
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: waggler]
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04/17/25 12:07 AM
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Jesus probably never drank wine, not because he was opposed to it, but because he was a Nazarene. Nazarenes did not cut their hair either. Jesus did drink wine: Mathew 11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. Interesting how the Israelite's Mathew is referring to compared eating too much to drinking too much. An over indulgence. Certainly, enjoy your food but don't be a glutton. Enjoy your drink but don't become a drunk. Moderation. Here's another one: Paul said in Colossians 2:16, Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days. Also, Jesus was FROM Nazreth in Isreal, not a Nazarene. He had not taken the Nazarene Vow. Nazarene s take a vow and do not cut their hair or drink. Sampson took the vow and was a Nazarene.
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: Dirt]
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04/17/25 07:34 AM
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Walmart women are blessed with children thanks to alcohol.  Kind of related; "Alcohol can act as a natural painkiller, as studies have shown that it can reduce pain sensitivity and provide some pain relief." Used it for this purpose after a long day busting trail many times. Helps you sleep. Haha……the women of Walmart. It’s not just in the US either, it’s everywhere! The doc used to ask if I wanted T3s or 4s for pain after whatever injury. Told him no, I got whisky. The pain was still there, but I just didn’t give a crap. It would also knock me out for sleeping, but only for a few hours. Then I was up every 20min. My snoreing was horrendous during those few hours too. My dad let me drink at home as long as it was downstairs and not in site of visitors as he was a deacon. We’d start discussing bible stuff and when smelled the booze that was it, we don’t discuss the bible when you’re looped he’d say. He’d have the odd “shot” though. I’d notice half my 26 was gone. Mom says oh dad poured himself a glass last night…..lol When I told him I was enlisting about a year before 9/11, he kicked me out of the house……for a day. I told him I don’t need a roof. I don’t like thinking back to our fights and some of the things I said, but it is what it is, the past.
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: elsmasho82]
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04/17/25 10:51 AM
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Walmart women are blessed with children thanks to alcohol.  . SO true. I was waiting for a checkup at women doctor and I see these “females” sitting there in flip flops and tank tops with their greasy hair in a bun and I’m like who is touching these women to get them pregnant? Or, there's that old adage: You CAN get pregnant sitting on a toilet seat.
Being old is when you don't care where your spouse goes, just a long as you don't have to go too.
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: Husky]
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04/17/25 12:52 PM
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A very wise man once said: "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise."
Seems simple to me.
A few thoughts: 1) There were multiple words in the Bible times translated into English as "wine." Alcoholic wine, mixed wine drinks, grape juice, and also a word of concept but not actual drinking. 2) Anyone who holds that all mention of wine in the Bible referred to alcoholic wine is promoting an agenda rather than the truth. I cannot trust any other statements they make. You should beware. 3) Alcoholic wine has been around a long time, and is spoken of in the Bible. For instance when Noah got off the big boat, got drunk, and then cursed his son for sad event. Also Lot impregnating his daughters after they got him drunk. On the day of Pentecost, the locals thought the Spirit-baptized believers were drunk. 4) Why play with fire? I don't see how friendly I can be with other women than my wife and it not become adultery, I don't speak to try and be just short of a lie and yet still be in the white, why would I drink something that I have to stay short of becoming drunk (exactly where is that line?)? Lay aside every weight and sin that does so easily beset you. 5) Drunkards are listed with many others in their eternal punishment: "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." Why risk it? All drunkards started at the same point as casual drinkers: one drink.
Jesus is risen. Live in new life, not the old man and old ways.
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: Husky]
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04/17/25 01:05 PM
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danny clifton
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Its not complicated. People use ethanol for the same reason they use any other drug. They like how it makes them feel. I dont know what the big deal is. if you dont like or want an alcoholic beverage then dont drink one. I think we would do well to quit worrying about other peoples choices. You can only control what you do.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: danny clifton]
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04/17/25 01:31 PM
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Its not complicated. People use ethanol for the same reason they use any other drug. They like how it makes them feel. I dont know what the big deal is. if you dont like or want an alcoholic beverage then dont drink one. I think we would do well to quit worrying about other peoples choices. You can only control what you do. If people stayed out of the public arena during or after drinking, that would be fine. Way too many people cause other people problems with their drinking.
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Re: Alcohol
[Re: Preacherman Les]
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04/17/25 01:41 PM
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A very wise man once said: "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise."
Seems simple to me.
A few thoughts: 1) There were multiple words in the Bible times translated into English as "wine." Alcoholic wine, mixed wine drinks, grape juice, and also a word of concept but not actual drinking. 2)Anyone who holds that all mention of wine in the Bible referred to alcoholic wine is promoting an agenda rather than the truth. I cannot trust any other statements they make. You should beware. 3) Alcoholic wine has been around a long time, and is spoken of in the Bible. For instance when Noah got off the big boat, got drunk, and then cursed his son for sad event. Also Lot impregnating his daughters after they got him drunk. On the day of Pentecost, the locals thought the Spirit-baptized believers were drunk. 4) Why play with fire? I don't see how friendly I can be with other women than my wife and it not become adultery, I don't speak to try and be just short of a lie and yet still be in the white, why would I drink something that I have to stay short of becoming drunk (exactly where is that line?)? Lay aside every weight and sin that does so easily beset you. 5) Drunkards are listed with many others in their eternal punishment: "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." Why risk it? All drunkards started at the same point as casual drinkers: one drink.
Jesus is risen. Live in new life, not the old man and old ways.
I'm aware that the Bible makes specific reference to non-alcoholic grape juice (don't put new wine into old wineskins.....). But, the fact of the matter is that there was no way to preserve fresh grape juice back then, so unless it was drunk fresh, there was alcohol present in the beverage. Grapes have naturally occuring yeast on them that gets into the juice when pressed, and will ferment the juice unless stopped by cold or hot temps or chemical preservatives. Now, their grapes may not have had a tom of sugar, resulting on a low alcohol content, but low alcohol isn't no alcohol. They also weren't shipping grape juice from all over the world, so unless it was within a week or so of grape-picking season, any grape juice available at any other time of the year other than grape picking time would have had alcohol. That's not agenda, that's just how thinks work.
Last edited by loosegoose; 04/17/25 01:42 PM.
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