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Beekeeping #8390005
04/20/25 01:32 AM
04/20/25 01:32 AM
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North Pole, Alaska
Husky Offline OP
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Does anyone keep bees?

My brother and I have been helping our local bee supplier with his shipments of bees for the past three years. This is what almost $87,000 worth of bees looks like. This also represents over half a million bees in those crates!

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Re: Beekeeping [Re: Husky] #8390007
04/20/25 01:50 AM
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Does the beekeeper euthanize or let the bees die in the Winter?

Keith

Re: Beekeeping [Re: Husky] #8390011
04/20/25 04:26 AM
04/20/25 04:26 AM
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guessing those are not local packages

Re: Beekeeping [Re: Husky] #8390027
04/20/25 06:45 AM
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Must be a huge markup on bees there. I'm not seeing that amount worth of bees there.

Out of curiosity, how cool is that room?


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Re: Beekeeping [Re: Husky] #8390044
04/20/25 07:07 AM
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I’m guessing there’s more than a half million bees there. A three pound package should have about 10,000 bees.

A lot of northern beekeepers manage for a single season. They aren’t concerned about overwintering hives, they start fresh with new package bees every April.

Re: Beekeeping [Re: Husky] #8390048
04/20/25 07:12 AM
04/20/25 07:12 AM
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Oh I know. At a certain point northern winters get too long.

Heck, most new beekeepers down here pay no mind to overwintering and as result have to start over come spring. We keep telling them that the beekeeping year actually starts in August. Got to get them cleaned up and in good shape in August or they won't be there come spring.


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Re: Beekeeping [Re: warrior] #8390102
04/20/25 09:06 AM
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I had 7 hives going into winter. We have 3 that made it through. There is no feed for them to forage yet, and a lot of days they can't fly because of the cold. I supplement feed them with white sugar and a pollen patty, till they get going. Quite a few hives make it through, then starve because of lack of feed. I find that an overwintered hive will bee your strongest hives, once they get going and best producers. Good Luck old243

Re: Beekeeping [Re: Husky] #8390103
04/20/25 09:14 AM
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The buzzing must be loud in that room.

Re: Beekeeping [Re: Husky] #8390120
04/20/25 09:45 AM
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Yep!Its that time of year.Mine are supposed to be here next week.


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Re: Beekeeping [Re: old243] #8390152
04/20/25 10:57 AM
04/20/25 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by old243
I had 7 hives going into winter. We have 3 that made it through. There is no feed for them to forage yet, and a lot of days they can't fly because of the cold. I supplement feed them with white sugar and a pollen patty, till they get going. Quite a few hives make it through, then starve because of lack of feed. I find that an overwintered hive will bee your strongest hives, once they get going and best producers. Good Luck old243


Even down here many will starve end of January into February if they're light first of the year. Kind of sad to die just days away from nectar.

Our worst winters are our warm ones where they can stay active and burn through stores. I'd much rather it get cold and stay cold to slow their metabolism down.


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Re: Beekeeping [Re: Husky] #8390166
04/20/25 11:36 AM
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Here in Pa, a cold winter usually has more hives survive. But you need a few warmer days, in the 40s , so bees can break their cluster and get to the outside frames that hold honey. It’s not unusual to find a winter die out hive with bees tucked into frames 5 and 6 with full frames of honey in 1-2 and 9-10. If a two deep box hive has a top box full of honey, they won’t run out of food. But it comes down to getting access to it all.

Re: Beekeeping [Re: Bigbrownie] #8390180
04/20/25 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Here in Pa, a cold winter usually has more hives survive. But you need a few warmer days, in the 40s , so bees can break their cluster and get to the outside frames that hold honey. It’s not unusual to find a winter die out hive with bees tucked into frames 5 and 6 with full frames of honey in 1-2 and 9-10. If a two deep box hive has a top box full of honey, they won’t run out of food. But it comes down to getting access to it all.


Not an issue for us all our winters will have warm days each month that'll have them active or even flying. I just don't want them active and eating when there's nothing out there to replace it.


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Re: Beekeeping [Re: KeithC] #8390190
04/20/25 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Does the beekeeper euthanize or let the bees die in the Winter?

Keith


We use a shop vac full of soapy water and that kills them. Overwintering bees gets to complicated and expensive so we start with a fresh batch each year.

Re: Beekeeping [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #8390191
04/20/25 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
guessing those are not local packages


Nope. They are shipped up from California.

Re: Beekeeping [Re: warrior] #8390192
04/20/25 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Must be a huge markup on bees there. I'm not seeing that amount worth of bees there.

Out of curiosity, how cool is that room?



The beekeeper only raises the price by $5 each box. He doesn’t make very much money at all, because he donates hives to the Scouts, friends, and his family. So that also reduces the profit he makes.

The room is kept at 74-76 degrees.

Re: Beekeeping [Re: Bigbrownie] #8390193
04/20/25 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
I’m guessing there’s more than a half million bees there. A three pound package should have about 10,000 bees.


These are four pound packages and the contain about 13,000 bees each. You can see about 225 bee boxes in the photo, but there was over 300 boxes that arrived.

Re: Beekeeping [Re: warrior] #8390194
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Here in Pa, a cold winter usually has more hives survive. But you need a few warmer days, in the 40s , so bees can break their cluster and get to the outside frames that hold honey. It’s not unusual to find a winter die out hive with bees tucked into frames 5 and 6 with full frames of honey in 1-2 and 9-10. If a two deep box hive has a top box full of honey, they won’t run out of food. But it comes down to getting access to it all.


Not an issue for us all our winters will have warm days each month that'll have them active or even flying. I just don't want them active and eating when there's nothing out there to replace it.



Are there any nectar or pollen sources in Georgia in the winter months? Here in Pa, they won’t find anything until March 1st, and then it’s early tree pollens. In the Fall, asters are the last thing out, usually totally done by Halloween.

Re: Beekeeping [Re: WI Outdoors] #8390195
04/20/25 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
The buzzing must be loud in that room.


It actually is a very soft humming noise.

Re: Beekeeping [Re: Husky] #8390198
04/20/25 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Husky
Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
I’m guessing there’s more than a half million bees there. A three pound package should have about 10,000 bees.


These are four pound packages and the contain about 13,000 bees each. You can see about 225 bee boxes in the photo, but there was over 300 boxes that arrived.



That’s just shy of 3,000,000 bees.

Re: Beekeeping [Re: Husky] #8390199
04/20/25 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Husky
Originally Posted by warrior
Must be a huge markup on bees there. I'm not seeing that amount worth of bees there.

Out of curiosity, how cool is that room?



The beekeeper only raises the price by $5 each box. He doesn’t make very much money at all, because he donates hives to the Scouts, friends, and his family. So that also reduces the profit he makes.

The room is kept at 74-76 degrees.


I was curious as we've already had one 90° day and fans are usually going on packages down here. Heat is our issue.

Extracting rooms as well will have fans and even dehumidifiers though no worries with heat then, you want it hot to help dry out the honey.

Of course heat in the yard is an issue as well. Pulling honey on 90plus days ain't no fun.


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