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Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills #8394465
04/28/25 11:39 AM
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Gerald Schmitt Offline OP
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Took a quick look at the vote on Oregon HB 3292 which would severely restrict beaver trapping in Oregon. The bill passed the Oregon House by a vote of 35 to 18. All the yes votes for the anti trapping bill were Democrats, all the no votes for trappers were Republicans. Not a single Democrat voted against the bill. Perfect example of who is for us and who is against us.

Just reinforces the fact that Democrats are the party of anti trapping and gun control. Almost without exception, they will take any chance they get to pass legislation that negatively impacts trappers and gun owners.

Republicans aren't perfect, but they usually are not proposing and supporting anti trapping and anti gun legislation.

Don' believe the Democrat's lies, our MN Dem Governor is a perfect example, goes pheasant hunting for a photo op, and struggled to load his shotgun. Claims to be a hunter and and sportsman, but supports any and all anti trapping and gun control legislation. He signed the bill, passed by the Democrats to ban commercial turtle trapping in Minnesota. He will not support a wolf season in Minnesota.

Elections and votes matter, a small but significant amount of trappers and hunters support Democrats, this support comes at a cost to trappers. Don't think "your guy" is different, when the votes are cast, Democrats will vote against trapping every time.


Last edited by Gerald Schmitt; 04/28/25 12:07 PM.
Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394472
04/28/25 11:52 AM
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We have NOT a real leader in Mn.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394481
04/28/25 12:31 PM
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Same thing in Wisconsin


http://www.usdebtclock.org/
This place is getting more like Facebook every day.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394487
04/28/25 12:58 PM
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Excellent analysis, and all true.


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Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394490
04/28/25 01:03 PM
04/28/25 01:03 PM
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Gerald, I'm a life-long democrat but you're right, democrat representatives have decided that anti trapping is part of their base agenda. And of course most of their constituents that are democrats most likely support that.

I've got some soul searching to do. I will not vote in the future for any of them that voted for this bill.

Last edited by beaverpeeler; 04/28/25 01:04 PM.

My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394492
04/28/25 01:06 PM
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Gerald, you are spot on with your assessment.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: beaverpeeler] #8394495
04/28/25 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Gerald, I'm a life-long democrat but you're right, democrat representatives have decided that anti trapping is part of their base agenda. And of course most of their constituents that are democrats most likely support that.

I've got some soul searching to do. I will not vote in the future for any of them that voted for this bill.


It sure appears that it may be too late to save what you love in your state.

The liberals agenda (in any state) has never been hidden and I struggle to understand how folks as yourself have supported them for so long.

I wish yall the best.


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Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394499
04/28/25 01:24 PM
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What's going on there in Oregon and other states is a shame. One thing I have noticed from watching hearings on a few bills here is that it's really apparent that almost all of the legislators on both sides have no idea of what they are voting on. I bet there isn't more than a handful of hunters and I'd be surprised if there are any trappers in the whole house or Senate here. People that don't understand hunting/trapping/fishing or the impact that these kinds of bills will have, should be no where near the levers of power.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394500
04/28/25 01:25 PM
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I've always voted for the person rather than straight down party line... but I do get what you're saying Swampy.


My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394507
04/28/25 01:43 PM
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Doesn't matter what a democrat has said or done in the past, or if they're otherwise a decent person, they vote in lock step with the party line....

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394511
04/28/25 01:50 PM
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I have never voted for a Dem. I never will. What's happening in Oregon is why, anyone that does is digging their own grave.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394512
04/28/25 01:52 PM
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Yes our Gov. says hes for conservation< I have yet to see any real thing done with that He puts up a good show for three seasons and nothing more than that and if he has a hard time handling a gun he need not be out there and hes has a military back round The Dems. blew through our budget surplus, and does he really care about people in the rural areas and small towns, always seems that the big and or biggest cities get the lions share. There I have said enough.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394513
04/28/25 01:55 PM
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Guys, we are broke here in Illinois too...BUT I will take my hat off to the Illinois Trappers Association and Prez. Ryan Ruhl and his staff....they have done an outstanding job with communicating the NEED for trapping in our democratic state.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394515
04/28/25 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerald Schmitt
Took a quick look at the vote on Oregon HB 3292 which would severely restrict beaver trapping in Oregon. The bill passed the Oregon House by a vote of 35 to 18. All the yes votes for the anti trapping bill were Democrats, all the no votes for trappers were Republicans. Not a single Democrat voted against the bill. Perfect example of who is for us and who is against us.

Just reinforces the fact that Democrats are the party of anti trapping and gun control. Almost without exception, they will take any chance they get to pass legislation that negatively impacts trappers and gun owners.

Republicans aren't perfect, but they usually are not proposing and supporting anti trapping and anti gun legislation.

Don' believe the Democrat's lies, our MN Dem Governor is a perfect example, goes pheasant hunting for a photo op, and struggled to load his shotgun. Claims to be a hunter and and sportsman, but supports any and all anti trapping and gun control legislation. He signed the bill, passed by the Democrats to ban commercial turtle trapping in Minnesota. He will not support a wolf season in Minnesota.

Elections and votes matter, a small but significant amount of trappers and hunters support Democrats, this support comes at a cost to trappers. Don't think "your guy" is different, when the votes are cast, Democrats will vote against trapping every time.


The destruction is far beyond anti trapping legislation here. Look at the negative track record that party has with all wildlife management issues, logging, mining, commercial fishing, hound hunting, and recreational hunting and fishing.
This State is full of renewable natural resources that have been taken off the menu by this party.
Oregon is nothing now compared to what it once was.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394516
04/28/25 01:57 PM
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I honestly don't know how an outdoorsman can vote for a democrat. The lines have been drawn many many years ago and there are very few that will cross the isle anymore, once in its straight party line vote.

The saying.......cutting your own nose off to spite your face is front and center on this political issue.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394517
04/28/25 01:59 PM
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I once believed voting the man. Until Sen Howell Heflin voted for the Clinton Brady Bill. Never again.

It's my belief that those still democrat in this day and age is because they themselves either partake in or support some sort of negative antisocial behavior, often drugs, sexual, hate or greed. Yet, they believe of themselves some sort of higher calling or intellelect in supporting these same negative behaviors in others.

In short, EVIL.


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Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394518
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NY is one the poster children for Democratic Party destruction of a state.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: beaverpeeler] #8394526
04/28/25 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Gerald, I'm a life-long democrat but you're right, democrat representatives have decided that anti trapping is part of their base agenda. And of course most of their constituents that are democrats most likely support that.

I've got some soul searching to do. I will not vote in the future for any of them that voted for this bill.

But you have, right? See the irony? You seem very based and informed, Very intuned with Beaver trapping , fishing , the out of doors. The democrats didnt JUST git this way. I know there are things more important than Beaver trapping and should be considered when voting, but........The democrats never "vote" you a "right", they always vote to "take away" something. 90 % of the people in Oregon dont even know there are Beavers there, this is just part of the democrat agenda.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: hippie] #8394533
04/28/25 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
I honestly don't know how an outdoorsman can vote for a democrat. The lines have been drawn many many years ago and there are very few that will cross the isle anymore, once in its straight party line vote.

The saying.......cutting your own nose off to spite your face is front and center on this political issue.


^^^^^^
THIS!

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8394543
04/28/25 03:52 PM
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Amen

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