Ontario actually has highest gdp. Alberta has highest per capita gdp. Alberta does not pay a specific tax for fossil fuel production, the companies pay corporate income tax and there is an excise tax on FF along with many other things. Sask produces oil and gas but is also big agricultural, forestry and worlds largest potash and second largest uranium mining place.

Alberta might get 40% in a vote but I’d be shocked if Saskatchewan was as high as 20 percent for separation.
60% is not a magic number in Canada, there’s no such provision in the Canadian constitution at all. The constitution would need to be amended and this would require federal approval. Heck 20% of Alberta’s oil is on federal land. Lol

It’s interesting to read about for sure but I’ll guess it’s an echo chamber that will be quite surprised how many people aren’t like them. Things like Facebook and X algorithms are funny like that.

Conservative leader PP who lost his 20 year seat in his own riding is now moving to Alberta as an elected MP is stepping aside for him to run in a by election in a guaranteed conservative riding. Some day that it is to squash the separatist movement. Time will tell I guess, but if so that’ll hurt for those separatists who currently love him.

I live in Alberta and know absolutely zero people that would not vote for independence,,,,

No one is happy about the path we are currently on,,,and are actually excited about potential change,,,,that I know personally

Imagine if you will,,,hypothetically,,,

All the Canadian provinces were currently independent/sovereign nations,,,

A group came along and said,,”we should all join together” “it will great for all our economies” “we’ll work together for betterment of everyone” “Bla,Bla,Bla”

Here’s the deal for you,,”you’ll have unfair government representation” “other provinces will block your resource development” “your economy will be knee capped” “you’ll lose individual rights”

No one would take that deal,,,no one!!

If this happens??? It’s not going to happen quickly

If in a couple years, things have not changed??

It’s a done deal

Sounds like we are getting Ukraine's rare minerals so he'll probably forget about yuns.

I’ll check back in a couple of years sp.

I’m actually curious as though There is a lot of prime hunting ground near me, that has been bought for hunting by Albertans for whitetail and bear hunting. As non Canadian residents this would not be land they could hunt if you separate so I’m generally interested in how it plays out if for that reason. Less dead mature bucks in the area, thumbs up!

Also interested in how It would work for all the Albertan land companies that own thousands of acres in Saskatchewan. Will Alberta purchase the TMX pipeline expansion that the federal government ensured was built after the original owner suspended construction ? I personally think there are way too many obstacles but whatever my two bits aren’t with much. I’m sure you have grievances, everybody does but watching that false meme you shared as a a trump card on how bad Carney is get proven false I can’t help but wonder just how much of your information on all of the evils of the feds (there are some) is equally as credible.

I don’t mind being called out for something that is not as it seems

By all means, call me out

50% of Canadians living in Canada live south of North Dakota. And 90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US Canada border.

I would guess most of our member Canadians are in the 10%, who live further North, not the 90% huddling against our border to stay warm.

Keith

Alberta should enter into a cooperative relationship with the United States and remain independent from heavy handiness out of Ottawa. It would serve them well as would serve Americas initiative of mutual cooperation.

That's harsh Keith. Harsh. LOL

I believe you that you don’t know any Albertans that wouldn’t vote to separate but really that’s like me saying i don’t know any ontarians who want more gun control. Percentage wise I know very few and like minds tend to stick together so I’d say your experience isn’t a fair representation of what the majority of albertans are thinking. The results of the election were disappointing to most rural Canadians, me included but succession isn’t the fix you seem to think it would be even if you could get the votes. Quebec tried it too and it never worked out for them.

It worked out great for Quebec,,,,,Quebec holds Canada by the balls

Western money is used to appease Quebec and keep them on board

It will be interesting to see what will be offered to keep Alberta on board?

As I recall they had the referendum and the separatists lost so what you’re saying isn’t accurate.

Again, I'm not Canadian, just concerned and sympathetic to the situation. My understanding based on several Canadian podcasts I have watched is that Alberta is attempting to avoid the mistakes that Quebec made on its attempt.

Alberta appears to be attempting to pre-harvest enough votes to feel confident that a vote will succeed if/when presented. Something that Quebec failed to do.

They may well be doing that. With a population of almost 5 million that’s a lot of harvesting. The clarity act lays out the process and requirements for succession and it’s not a simple 51% of the vote.

What podcasts? I’m genuinely curious where you’re getting your info. I wonder what the credentials of the podcast people are and how credible they are. If they are confident Alberta will succeed it sounds like they are part of an echo chamber. There are quite a few that just parrot the same talking points, many of which are false and laughable.

There are so many hurdles and even with majority support it isn’t a given. There is majority support in echo chambers.

My wife gets all her info from podcast people. It is easy to believe them if you do not know basic facts, history, and mathematics. 95 percent of the time she goads me into watching one of these experts the bias is obvious and the facts are inaccurate.

It’s just like Illinois, and Minnesota the whole states are red except for a few count which are the big cities that’s why Illinois is always screwed up

I listen to the old one just for the sake of it. I actually enjoy getting into the left and right leaning worm holes just to see how much of their worlds are delusional.

Regarding Alberta, things you’ll hear.

“The Feds are crippling the oil industry.” Facts: Oil production has set a new Canadian record each of the last 4 years.
“The Fed’s are only working against oil and gas in Alberta. Facts: The Feds subsidized oil and gas almost 30 billion dollars last year.

There are more. Now there are indeed grievances ( certain laws and bills) and I think no matter who you are or where you are there will be grievances but much of the rhetoric going around won’t stand up to hard scrutiny.

rvsask,

Here's another one from Jasmin Laine. I had posted one earlier for anyone interested to listen to.
Here's the latest, with not only opinion, but news articles from both Canada and the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxblXN2_a-Q


I understand that Canada exports a lot of oil. But I believe there is some important information pieces included in this video.

What's going on in Canada now sounds a lot like the BS that went on down here over the last 9 years. Little difficult to get facts when the news and government control the narrative.

3togo, I’ll listen to it. I’ve heard the odd other one from her therefore I know she has a strong conservative and Poilievre bias. I personally think all podcasters speak a narrative to an audience that most benefits them in terms of viewership and finances but that said, will listen objectively. I listen to both sides of the narrative regularly.

I will argue a little bit about the controlled narrative but. While it is true here that the government subsidizes media, it is also true the previous conservative one did too. It is also strange that many speak of the bias in certain outlets, (cbc for example) but the same people use an article by CBC as proof how bad something is. That makes no sense. lol

Also Postmedia owns almost every daily and weekly publication in Canada. It’s majority owned by a US hedgefund that is definitely right leaning bias, they own 32 newspapers in Alberta, including the 4 largest that make their way into a couple million homes daily. I guess I’m not arguing that the news and media control the narrative, I am arguing that it is one sided.

Sometimes Alberta bites off its nose to spite its face when it comes to the Feds. It’s perplexing at times. I’m not saying I voted Liberal because I didn’t, but the sun came up the next day, life goes on. Lol