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Help putting in new driveway #8400721
05/09/25 03:01 PM
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Wish to put in new driveway over currently lawn. Too old and too cheap for pavement. Will go with crushed stone. Is there a fabric that can be placed over lawn so grass will not grow thru stone. What is name and where do you get it? We are organic so spraying is out.
Thanks in advance.

Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8400732
05/09/25 03:23 PM
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You would think tree barrier would work the trick here I’d getting gravel or rock that’s not loaded with sand and dirt that’s a big help to keeping themweeds down some gravel brings in unwanted weeds.

Last edited by Law Dog; 05/09/25 03:24 PM.

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Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8400737
05/09/25 03:29 PM
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My experience is that the weed barrier fabrics eventually work their way to the surface and become a problem. You'll be cutting a little bit of he fabric away year after year as it bunches up, rolls up, and sticks up through the stone.

I use a broad spectrum herbicide like Primatol once a year - do not spray under the canopy of any trees since this is where the roots are. But it will give season long control of all vegetation.

Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8400738
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when our driveway was put in the had to put fabric over some of the heavy clay soil as the crushed rock would just sink into the clay as you drove over it.

They just called it "landscape fabric".

Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8400739
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To do it right you should remove any organic topsoil. Have it excavated down the subsoil, then stoned from there.


Eh...wot?

Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8400765
05/09/25 04:17 PM
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I'd go with millings instead of stone. Packs well, easier to plow snow. Much easier on a snow blower. And nothing seems to grow through it.

Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8400784
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What's millings? And where do you get it?


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Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: Lugnut] #8400789
05/09/25 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
To do it right you should remove any organic topsoil. Have it excavated down the subsoil, then stoned from there.


^^^ This and then #57 stone, it will take several layers to form a solid base:-)


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Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8400823
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Get some geotextile for road use and excavate the native soil to 12-24" and add your stone,millings or RCA. This will give you a real long lasting driveway.

Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8400828
05/09/25 06:04 PM
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You can’t put a driveway over grass…
Dig out the grass till you hit base.
Depending on the depth, with cheap rock..
I like 3/4 minuse because it blows off easy.
Fabric imho,Hold sediment and allowes weeds to grow
They do make a hexagon material for stability


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just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8400835
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local conditions dictate the appropriate process.

I'd be speaking to your local Conservation District/Township Supervisors or other folks who have actually CONSTRUCTED (and maintained!) gravel roads.

Their advice would be invaluable; and could save you both time and money in the future.

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Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8400872
05/09/25 07:11 PM
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Do not use weed clothe. Get an actual road fabric . Scrape of the grass layer and lay the fabric . It does not make a good base on top of the grass. Then used decomposed granite if you can find it. Best material out there for driveways. No dust , packs really well


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Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: BigBob] #8400910
05/09/25 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBob
What's millings? And where do you get it?

Millings are the ground off asphalt when they re-pave the highway or other roads.
We have a local asphalt plant in town that we can buy it from.

Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8400922
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Yesterday I was traveling on I-26 and watching the contractors prepare a new and wider lane. They were installing a black fabric under about 18" of soil. I expect this was a drainage issue.

Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8400942
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excavate 24" down 1 good layer 4" breaker run, layer 1 !/4" gravel, top with 3/4" gravel...then
you got something


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Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8401023
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Yep. Cut off 8" of soil. Put down a geo fabric. All suppliers have it now. Put down roughly 4" give or take of a clean rock maybe a 2" clean. Clean rock will never compact but you need to compact it in to your fabric. It will eventually lock together. Then do a 1" base rock cap wetted down and compacted.

Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8401027
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Concrete might be cheaper, lol.


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Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8401050
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Gonna have to excavate to mineral soil, lay ty-par down, fill with crushed rock.

Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8401156
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No way to do it cheap and right, lol, lots of ways to do it cheap and not so right....but thats your decision.... grin

Re: Help putting in new driveway [Re: 080808] #8401165
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If grass is a problem, you need to make more home made ice cream. lol.

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