850 hands down. Jawspread and power to come up through the crust. Plus the fact that the 750 is the worst wolf sized trap I have dealt with for freezing down. The 750 does bed really nice, and isn't a bad dry ground trap, I'll continue to use the ones I've got during the early season and they will be the first trap I grab to set in an area I am worried about trap thieves. But I won't buy any more as long as 850s are available at the same price point.

850 doesn't have a dead spot in the pan either. Early season you can get away with using the 750, but for everything else the 850 beats it. Neither are close to what the NO BS traps are though.

Well since we aren't trapping wolves and lions in Wi, I think a 7" jaw spread on dry land Is just fine.

What do you consider wrecked?

Only issues I've had with the Dukes are bent dogs and a couple bent pans from caught wolves. You can pretty much guarantee that you are going to being straightening dogs. I've never yet not been able to straighten them enough with the tools I've had on hand to reset them. But some can be a pretty snaky looking. I'm getting some replacement dogs this year to carry on the mine with me. I've had a 750 that the wolf bent up the dog rod so that I had to replace it in order to reset it.

Yeah, the No BS traps are superior, but they should be for the price.