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05/13/25 08:38 PM
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Central Oregon
AntiGov
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Central Oregon
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After 40 yrs of man made global warming we should all be cooked , shouldn't we ?
What say you ?
1) you believe it's still warming
2) you believe it's real but should be called climate change
3) it's a hoax , always has been , always will be
The Vink for chief moderator....night shift ...11pm- 5am best coast time zone.....Free Marty
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8402999
05/13/25 08:46 PM
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Central Oregon
AntiGov
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Central Oregon
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I'm thinking any measurable increase , year after year , would have us all cooked like bacon.
Yep , it's all bs
The Vink for chief moderator....night shift ...11pm- 5am best coast time zone.....Free Marty
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403005
05/13/25 08:49 PM
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Kentucky
ky_coyote_hunter
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Kentucky
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#3, it's all about control and always has been....In fact it's a bunch of #2, albeit not the #2 on your list, Lol.
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403040
05/13/25 09:09 PM
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Coldspring Texas
Savell
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"Wilbur"
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Coldspring Texas
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…. Not to mention all the girls I dated in the 2000’s spraying that white rain hairspray everywhere…. Burned a hole directly through the ozone layer I imagine
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[Re: ky_coyote_hunter]
#8403073
05/13/25 09:28 PM
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Champaign County, Ohio.
KeithC
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Champaign County, Ohio.
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#3, it's all about control and always has been....In fact it's a bunch of #2, albeit not the #2 on your list, Lol. It's all about control and making money. The most al gore made in salary was about $200,000.00 a year, but his net worth is $330,000,000.00 mostly from carbon credits and global warming speaking fees. It's a scam when it comes to people influencing it much. Keith
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403078
05/13/25 09:32 PM
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NC
bowhunter27295
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NC
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I always ask what was the actual temperature in 1512?
Answer, no one knows. The minuscule differences they talk about in global temps could easily be explained away with the fact we have only been keeping accurate records by today's standards for max 60 years?
It's a joke and a way to get fools to rally around something and give money to a fools campaign who says the world is gonna DIE!!!!
How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403080
05/13/25 09:33 PM
05/13/25 09:33 PM
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SW Pa
wr otis
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SW Pa
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It's a political scam, the gift that keeps on giving. There's no immediate solution, so it just keeps going on and on.
Antartica made a huge amount of new ice this year. Must not be that warm yet.
Notice how they quit talking about it altogether maybe a year before the election?
Poll numbers showed the public losing interest in hearing about it non stop.
So they switched to danger to democracy theme.
Last edited by wr otis; 05/13/25 09:40 PM.
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[Re: KeithC]
#8403122
05/13/25 10:15 PM
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Alaska
AK Timber Tramp
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Alaska
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#3, it's all about control and always has been....In fact it's a bunch of #2, albeit not the #2 on your list, Lol. It's all about control and making money. The most al gore made in salary was about $200,000.00 a year, but his net worth is $330,000,000.00 mostly from carbon credits and global warming speaking fees. It's a scam when it comes to people influencing it much. Keith Carbon credits are the biggest scam of them all. They’re an excuse to lock down old growth timber, because they claim it’s saving the planet. The only way to permanently store that carbon is make boards out of it (or pianos, guitars, whatever). Trees absorb carbon as they grow, old growth isn’t growing, it’s at the final stage of its life cycle, so it absorbs no carbon, but releases a bunch when it blows over and rots. If they want to sell carbon credits, they should be looking at reprod units
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403168
05/13/25 11:12 PM
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Central Texas
Chancey
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Central Texas
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4) Yes, the climate is changing. The question is whether or not it is human induced? I say no.
Resident Conspiracy Theorist Accused Moron, Nazi, Low IQ, Putin Fan Boy, and Obama Clone
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[Re: Savell]
#8403170
05/13/25 11:14 PM
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Central Texas
Chancey
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Central Texas
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… my grandma caused it with the overuse of aquanet hair spray That stuff made awesome flame throwers. A can of that and a lighter was fun for hours.
Resident Conspiracy Theorist Accused Moron, Nazi, Low IQ, Putin Fan Boy, and Obama Clone
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[Re: charles]
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05/13/25 11:55 PM
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Alaska
AK Timber Tramp
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Alaska
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I believe the carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere are climbing. I believe our greenhouse gases are increasing. It is hard not to believe that humans have not contributed to these increases. We don’t even compare to fleas on a dogs back, we aren’t that significant
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403196
05/13/25 11:57 PM
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Central Texas
Chancey
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Central Texas
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We have more trees now than ever before. We plant them all the time. If anything, lack of fire suppression across much of the globe is contributing to more tree and shrub growth. I only know what I am told about C02 levels in the atmosphere; as I don't have the capability to measure it or compare the amounts over time. Frankly, I don't think anyone does; as one big natural disaster like Krakatoa or the US gov induced catastrophe like Nordstream 2 pipeline explosion drastically changes the dynamics so there really isn't much to compare it to.
I do think we humans are screwing up building more and more concrete, setting solar panels everywhere, and building cities of whirlwind bird and bat killers. If they want solar panels, then go to the cities and put them all over the roof tops. Don't take out prime farmland and grazing land to do it. Humans ain't the problem; its idiot humans in charge that are.
Resident Conspiracy Theorist Accused Moron, Nazi, Low IQ, Putin Fan Boy, and Obama Clone
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403278
05/14/25 07:30 AM
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Manitoba
Shakeyjake
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Manitoba
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We broke a heat record here on Monday that held since 1905 or something…….lol. We’re still at the tail end of an ice age. It’s going to warm up no matter what we do. People hate change, but that’s Mother Nature. Alberta used to be a sea surrounded by tropical jungle. Now we get the sweet black nectar that powers our world from that jungle…..lol. The worst damage environmentalists are doing is trying to stop forest management. The multimillion dollar cabins are sitting in a ticking time bomb. Some of this bush needs fire to reproduce, but they’re used to normal fires that have been running through for thousands of years. Now, with poor management in these parks, the fires are so hot that the trees won’t grow back. They’ll be living in a very different bush when it starts growing back.
Last edited by Shakeyjake; 05/14/25 07:35 AM.
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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[Re: Savell]
#8403282
05/14/25 07:39 AM
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east central WI
k snow
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east central WI
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…. Not to mention all the girls I dated in the 2000’s spraying that white rain hairspray everywhere…. Burned a hole directly through the ozone layer I imagine And launched thousands upon thousand of potatoes from PVC spud guns.
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403286
05/14/25 07:52 AM
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pa.
jarentz
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It's the rockets going thru the ozone!! Opening up more holes every year.
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403322
05/14/25 09:04 AM
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PA Venango Co.
Ron Marsh
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#3 I have watched weather patterns since the early 50's I see a 7 and a 14 year cycle patterns I also looked at records since the 1700's and see the same patterns.
PTA Lifetime #131N. Salvation Army CSM Stakes: Why leave them? ALWAYS John 3:16 814-516-2923
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403330
05/14/25 09:13 AM
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MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
Trapper7
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MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
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There are many scientists that say it's a cycle that's been going on for hundreds of years. But, they are ignored by the main stream media. Instead, they prefer to take a fatalistic view and call it man made based on factual science.
The first bottles of Coca Cola contained 3.5 grams of cocaine. That's how our grandparents were able to walk to school uphill both ways in the snow.
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403459
05/14/25 02:59 PM
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Green County Wisconsin
GREENCOUNTYPETE
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Green County Wisconsin
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After 40 yrs of man made global warming we should all be cooked , shouldn't we ?
What say you ?
1) you believe it's still warming
2) you believe it's real but should be called climate change
3) it's a hoax , always has been , always will be 3-ish a couple volcanos can cause more disturbance than what mankind does everything has been going in cycles from the beginning of man , we have lived much of recorded human time the last 3000 or so years in some small ice ages what makes it a hoax is not the data , but the robbing this data to make that data and the insistence on doing it fast enough that you can't fully develop a trend what is being done is a shift of one kind of energy to another , building stuff in mass , just to toss it out if we were real about this , we would do less slight of hand in how we use and make energy and a lot more reduction of consumption step 1 to just plain being more conscience of our consumption is to reduce consumption of energy that generally means more insulation , we use a crazy amount of energy to heat and cool what actually happens is they save pennies and call it dollars change an excellent example is refrigerators , there was a test where they took an old 1950s refrigerator and put it on a kill-a-watt meter and did the same with a new fridge the new ones have much smaller motors so they show a reduced energy consumption UNTIL you run them 16 hours a day to cool the same thermal mass as the other fridge cools in 8 hours , now you have within a couple watts of consumption between the 2 , but remember one is 70 years old and worked the entire time , the other one you will be lucky to get 7 years out if , so you must also calculate in the energy consumption of building , transporting , recycling of it x10 now the 70 year old Fridge is way ahead of the new fridge that will need to be replaced every 7-10 years as they are non repairable. someone figured out the change economy showed profits , constantly in a flux of change Is there warming or change , sure there could be , but the way it is being treated really won't counter what they say the issue it Diesel trucks are another good example Def and Regen really didn't make it better , it made it different and not in an all good way and the Government exempted all their vehicles from it
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403465
05/14/25 03:14 PM
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McGrath, AK
white17

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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McGrath, AK
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After 40 yrs of man made global warming we should all be cooked , shouldn't we ?
What say you ?
1) you believe it's still warming
2) you believe it's real but should be called climate change
3) it's a hoax , always has been , always will be I think you need to add #4. The climate is changing but man's contribution is uncertain. I have zero doubt that it is warmer generally................in my area over the past 50 years. I can see it in the declining consumption of wood for my heat. I can also see it in the changing land forms on my trapline. Small rises that existed in 1980 are now gone or have become ravines due to permafrost melting. I think Milankovich cycles are the largest contributor to these changes.
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[Re: white17]
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05/14/25 09:31 PM
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Pa.
Bigbrownie
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After 40 yrs of man made global warming we should all be cooked , shouldn't we ?
What say you ?
1) you believe it's still warming
2) you believe it's real but should be called climate change
3) it's a hoax , always has been , always will be I think you need to add #4. The climate is changing but man's contribution is uncertain. I have zero doubt that it is warmer generally................in my area over the past 50 years. I can see it in the declining consumption of wood for my heat. I can also see it in the changing land forms on my trapline. Small rises that existed in 1980 are now gone or have become ravines due to permafrost melting. I think Milankovich cycles are the largest contributor to these changes. ^^^^^This^^^^^
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403710
05/14/25 11:06 PM
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Oregon 66
bfflobo
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Oregon 66
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Control of masses, taxation on carbon foot print, find out who the sheep are and who will comply. Global cooling failed in the 60's, global warming failed and now it is climate change. Taxes on all. There really is no definition for climate change. Just like Saturday special and assault weapon. Just sensational wording made up by politicians and fake news to control.
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[Re: white17]
#8403717
05/14/25 11:15 PM
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Central Texas
Chancey
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Central Texas
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After 40 yrs of man made global warming we should all be cooked , shouldn't we ?
What say you ?
1) you believe it's still warming
2) you believe it's real but should be called climate change
3) it's a hoax , always has been , always will be I think you need to add #4. The climate is changing but man's contribution is uncertain. I have zero doubt that it is warmer generally................in my area over the past 50 years. I can see it in the declining consumption of wood for my heat. I can also see it in the changing land forms on my trapline. Small rises that existed in 1980 are now gone or have become ravines due to permafrost melting. I think Milankovich cycles are the largest contributor to these changes. As usual, I think White is correct. If anyone lives outside most of the time for a long enough time and pays attention, then things are definitely NOT like they were. Down here, we have birds migrating differently, and even birds migrating and taking up residence here that have never been here. I got buddies in Canada that have fished for walleye for 30 years and they are seeing changes on how the fish move. My barn swallows came back two months early this year. The system is telling us it is changing and changing rather quickly.
Resident Conspiracy Theorist Accused Moron, Nazi, Low IQ, Putin Fan Boy, and Obama Clone
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[Re: AntiGov]
#8403740
05/14/25 11:41 PM
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Kansas
Pawnee
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Kansas
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It’s just another form of communism
Everything the left touches it destroys
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[Re: Providence Farm]
#8403818
05/15/25 06:43 AM
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Beatrice, NE
loosegoose
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Beatrice, NE
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the earth goes through cycles. We have had 2 ice ages they say. was man's fires in caves responsible for geting out of the ice ages. What about causing the ice ages?
one volcanic eruption puts out more carbon than man since we have been on the planet.
That man is responsible requires people to be a special kind of stupid unable to think for themselves. That's just about making money and government controle
Think I'm going to go burn some tires got to do my part I'm sick of cutting wood for the winter.
Burning wood is carbon neutral. Trees absorb carbon and store it in their wood, and then that same carbon gets released into the atmosphere eventually, whether that's through rotting on the ground after the tree dies, or through burning it.
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