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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405356
05/18/25 10:26 AM
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My wife does the trapping now .And I make suggestions


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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Dirt] #8405406
05/18/25 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
^^^^^^^^^
Would you be a member of an organization who constantly refers to trapping as a "sport" at the same time claiming they are going to protect trapping?

The associations I’m part of aren’t saying that……..at least that I know of. Which org are you talking about?


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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Shakeyjake] #8405465
05/18/25 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
Originally Posted by Dirt
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Would you be a member of an organization who constantly refers to trapping as a "sport" at the same time claiming they are going to protect trapping?

The associations I’m part of aren’t saying that……..at least that I know of. Which org are you talking about?


I'm curious to


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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: trapdog1] #8405582
05/18/25 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by Dirt
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Would you be a member of an organization who constantly refers to trapping as a "sport" at the same time claiming they are going to protect trapping?

Absolutely.


Well done answering the question. It was a yes or no question.


Who is John Galt?
Re: How many of you trap… [Re: AK Timber Tramp] #8405615
05/18/25 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AK Timber Tramp
Annual. They’re talking about doing away with it altogether, unless you make under $50,000. Which is way below poverty line here. It costs me $1,900 to charter a float plane to my cabin from Ketchikan, same if I need to go back into town. The PFD doesnt even begin to cover the difference I pay for regular groceries over the course of a few months. Hence why subsistence is a big thing around here. A crappy expired steak from the store is $65. A 24 pack of coors light is $39, etc.


I always heard how expensive it is there with everything having to be brought up. I would expect pay reflects that maybe not? Typically larger cities are more expensive to live in and Ironworkers scale reflects that in those areas. Huge difference in pay between working in Chicago vs Alabama doing the exact same job. But a basic house in nice area in Chicago on a small lot will be hundreds of thousands. Same amount in Alabama will buy you a much nice house and a nice spread.

Kind of seem like cost of living is a thing you deal with and figure in when we make the choice to live in any area. Example years ago befor we bough the farm.I was thinking about buying a house from my wife's aunt 7 miles from work. It was a much nicer and larger house than mine on a few acres that was aroundd.40 miles from work. the house payment would have been doubled. BUT when I figured in Expenses like Internet, phone, trash pick up were cheaper in town , and gas use a lot less I would have less cost every month.(I didn't know how to figure the higher cost of wife being 5 min from every store vs 45 mins) but decided I couldn't live where I looked out the back windows into someone else from or back yard. everything has trade offs.
Yes it's expensive up there but it's expensive in other places as well. The difference is some get money from fund others don't . Right wrong or indifferent? It may not be a large amount I know nothing about it but it seems like a nice perk( like welfare dont get mad just what it remind me of) regards of the size to those uneducated about it like me.

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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Dirt] #8405631
05/18/25 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Well done answering the question. It was a yes or no question.

Same to you dirt. If you read my post before you know the answer. What do you think?
You wanna mention what org you’re talking about or you just gonna shut your trap and let everyone wonder?
Or are you just spreading BS on the internet?

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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405694
05/18/25 10:53 PM
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"The Iowa Trappers Association is a state-wide organization that is made up of trappers that work together to promote and protect our sport of trapping."

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I was referencing the NTA, but it may be relatively common in the lower 48. NTA American Trapper articles routinely referred to trapping as a sport.

"The Illinois Trappers Association was founded in 1962 by individuals seeking to organize a focused, effective representation for those involved in the sport of trapping in Illinois."

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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: AK Timber Tramp] #8405708
05/18/25 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AK Timber Tramp
Annual. They’re talking about doing away with it altogether, unless you make under $50,000. Which is way below poverty line here. It costs me $1,900 to charter a float plane to my cabin from Ketchikan, same if I need to go back into town. The PFD doesnt even begin to cover the difference I pay for regular groceries over the course of a few months. Hence why subsistence is a big thing around here. A crappy expired steak from the store is $65. A 24 pack of coors light is $39, etc.

I guess that dates me. It was $320 Ketchikan to Port Alice. At the time Ketchikan Air had regular service to Port Alice and Edna Bay. Groceries all came USPS.
For booze guys used to make a run to Naukati. Port Alice was supposed to be a dry camp.

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405715
05/19/25 12:23 AM
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They’re all “supposed to be dry camps” lol. That rule more applies to the out of towners who actually stay at camp, local boys boat/drive home (depending what island the work is on, and where home is) and do what we want until it’s time to get up and go back. Or if the distance is too much, like when we work on Wrangell, a bunch of us just rent a house together so we don’t have to be at camp. Camps are for rigging rats and road builders. We still refer to whatever place we’re at as “camp” but it’s not the actual logging camp 99% of the time

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Dirt] #8405728
05/19/25 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
"The Iowa Trappers Association is a state-wide organization that is made up of trappers that work together to promote and protect our sport of trapping."

Iowa trappers association web page 1 line 1

I was referencing the NTA, but it may be relatively common in the lower 48. American Trapper articles routinely referred to trapping as a sport.

"The Illinois Trappers Association was founded in 1962 by individuals seeking to organize a focused, effective representation for those involved in the sport of trapping in Illinois."

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I've never joined the that one. Only American ones are NTA & FTA for a couple years, Idaho & Alaska. I did buy one of Goodman's shirts in Sioux Falls last summer. When I got it home I looked at the back and it said something like "Passing down the sport of trapping". That's my skinning shirt. Too bad, it's otherwise really nice.
I've got a couple good friends that stack the wolves and other critters up and call it hobby trapping. I just tell them to drop the hobby part when someone asks why they trap. In the end, we all gotta pool or resources and work together which is why this thread was started, who's all a member of an association?


Reason I'm posting this early is I'm waiting on a digger truck to help replace a defective 100kva transformer. This is paying better than beaver right now.

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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405861
05/19/25 11:43 AM
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Yes, I do trap and a member of Wyoming State Trappers Assn, FTA and NTA.


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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405870
05/19/25 11:50 AM
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As we have inherited our great trapping heritage, so too have we inherited the responsibility of carrying out our wonderful sport in an ethical manner. Through education of today's trappers, our goal is to provide the information necessary for them to carry through on this responsibility.

Our goal is also to provide the information necessary to enable the novice trapper to learn the techniques of constructing sets, humanely dispatching animals, fur handling, etc. This will be done primarily through the input of the many experienced trappers out there interested in the education of our young trappers.

Our goal is to encourage today's trappers to join their national, and state trapping associations. By joining these organizations, we strengthen our numbers for battle against those who would take this great sport from us. We have many battles ahead in the legislative arena and these organizations need more than just our money. It's imperative that we show the public who we are and the good we are doing for the wildlife. Always keep in mind that we are the true protectors of wildlife and the wild places in which the animals live.

Our goal is to keep the sport of trapping alive to pass on to the next generation by keeping the trapper abreast of any impending legislation that may threaten our sport and suggest the proper action the trapper can take on any such legislation.

Our goal here is to teach trappers. In the pursuit of educating trappers, we respectfully request that no anti trapping rhetoric or any such input that does not promote the education of trappers in the ethics and techniques of trapping be posted.
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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405875
05/19/25 11:55 AM
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They probably call it hobby trapping, because it is the truth for them. I could spend a fortune catching wolves and wolverines and lose money doing it. Plenty of people do.

One more time, it is getting harder to actually make decent income doing this as time goes by. Most trappers are not doing this.

I agree trappers should lie, but the figures won't.





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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405876
05/19/25 12:02 PM
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Even during the fur boom years, there were VERY few trappers making a living from trapping only. Its always been a side hustle


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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8405890
05/19/25 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Even during the fur boom years, there were VERY few trappers making a living from trapping only. Its always been a side hustle


For some reason people don't grasp that fur trapping is seasonal work. Fur trapping is when the animals have fur worth selling. Most jobs don't allow you to earn all your yearly income needs in a 3 or 4 month period.


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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405938
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Yes , I trap. And I belong to La. Trappers association. But, I haven’t trapped in a couple of years! Been very busy!

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8405940
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Even during the fur boom years, there were VERY few trappers making a living from trapping only. Its always been a side hustle

True! Even way back. It was extra money during the winter when you weren’t farming.

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405974
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I Trap a little, caught a few coyotes and one cat this year, belong to NTA, OTA, I have been the OTA Rendezvous chairman for 15 years plus, so I help the Oregon Trappers with fundraising as well. Looking to expand my trapping effort next winter.

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405986
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Never been a sport for me.
I get paid or I don't do it.
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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Shakeyjake] #8406024
05/19/25 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
The antis love this hobby stuff. I’ve had comments to my vids like “just out there to kill something eh?”
To the trappers that don't have mentors to teach proper fur handling, figure it out. I started by putting up beaver, nobody holding my hand or knife for me. Just do it, there’s tons of info out there.
As for being a member of an association or not. The only trappers that aren't, seem to have had a bad experience with them so they’ll shoot them down every chance they get and insult others who are members that pay $2.50 a month to the association. Some just want more swag for their money, they don’t really know why there’s an association.

The antis don't care what you call it. They just want it gone. Nothing is going to change that.


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