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60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare #8405796
05/19/25 09:27 AM
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Apologies if this has been posted earlier. Interesting to say the very least.



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Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: Muskrat] #8405801
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Skynet all over again.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: Muskrat] #8405832
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It was Einstein who once said, " I know not with what weapons WW3 will be fought, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones."


You know you're a lousy driver when Siri says, "In 400 feet, stop and let me out!"
Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: Muskrat] #8405860
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I think I remember reading the inventor of the machine gun thought it would end war because it was so deadly.

Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: Muskrat] #8406088
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Not going to worry about it cuz I have my 3" 870's within reach!

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Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: Muskrat] #8406096
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MtWildman was a prophet, who would have thunk it.

Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: Muskrat] #8406098
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I can't get past that stupid beard.

Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: humptulips] #8406103
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Originally Posted by humptulips
I think I remember reading the inventor of the machine gun thought it would end war because it was so deadly.



Hiram Maxim I believe.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: Muskrat] #8406153
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If you haven't watched it Tucker Carlson had Eric Prince on about 6 months ago. Eric Prince was the CEO of blackwater. He said guns will be pointless, everything will be autonomous. They can program a drone with a payload and upload your biometrics in it. Not just one drone but tens twenties and hundreds of them.

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Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: Muskrat] #8406194
05/19/25 11:36 PM
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About 20-25 years ago, I read a cheap paperback I picked up somewhere called "Ender's Game". A fiction that seemed like a dime-novel sci-fi. It was spot on, I now realize. Drone combat, by the thousands.


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Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: Muskrat] #8406204
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It's because of guys like this that the war in Ukraine is still going on. $$$$$$$


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Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: Muskrat] #8406256
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And back in the 1960's experts were sure the era of the dogfight was over and all our planes needed were missiles. After loosing too many planes to the MIGs, our planes were equipped with guns in addition to missiles.

Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: Muskrat] #8406269
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You may think its a joke or not reality, but there are a handful of "kids" sitting in an office space playing video games with drones and other tools 1000's of miles away from the theater. The weapons they use are devastating to say the least. For everyone that watched Iran launch all those missiles, keep in mind it only took a few young soldiers to clear the sky. Now imagine what they could do to a "battlefield"


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Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: Law Dog] #8406278
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by humptulips
I think I remember reading the inventor of the machine gun thought it would end war because it was so deadly.



Hiram Maxim I believe.


I regularly work on and stay at an island vacation home on Lake Hopatcong, NJ that was built by Hiram Maxim in the late 1800's.

Lake Hopatcong is New Jersey's biggest lake. It used to be a series of seven smaller lakes before Maxim teamed up with Jesse Bronstein, founder and former CEO of Trojan Powder and blasted them into one big lake.

As part of the deal between the two, the lake house was sold to Bronstein for one dollar. It is currently owned by Jesse Bronstein's great grandson, Richard Bronstein.

I have been staying there for a few weeks to a few months and working on the place every year for the past twenty or so years. Until about fifty years ago it was used as a yacht club headquarters, only accessible by boat. Then they put a road in that came close to it and an eighty-foot foot bridge across the lagoon to access it. It's a job just getting tools, equipment and materials down four flights of stairs from the mainland and across the bridge.

The Bronsteins invested some of the hundreds of millions of dollars in profit from Trojan Powder into real estate. They own 42 properties, mostly farms with old farm houses on 3,000+ acres just in the Allentown area. They've kept me busy repairing and remodeling those places over the last thirty years.


Eh...wot?

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Originally Posted by waggler
It's because of guys like this that the war in Ukraine is still going on. $$$$$$$


That and the $180 billion Biden sent Zelenski.


Eh...wot?

Re: 60 Minutes: the Future of Warfare [Re: Randy Wieland] #8406299
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Originally Posted by Randy Wieland
You may think its a joke or not reality, but there are a handful of "kids" sitting in an office space playing video games with drones and other tools 1000's of miles away from the theater. The weapons they use are devastating to say the least. For everyone that watched Iran launch all those missiles, keep in mind it only took a few young soldiers to clear the sky. Now imagine what they could do to a "battlefield"



They sit right down the road from me in another squadron........I chuckle cause they wear flight suits as well - you know since they are pilots, sitting around in their flight suits flying drones. When I left last night, one of them paused at the side of the road with his flight cap cocked on his head, glasses on, tall skinny beanpole - I thought what a nerd but was thankful for him as I am sure he is protecting us and seeing images I really dont want to.......

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Originally Posted by Randy Wieland
You may think its a joke or not reality, but there are a handful of "kids" sitting in an office space playing video games with drones and other tools 1000's of miles away from the theater. The weapons they use are devastating to say the least. For everyone that watched Iran launch all those missiles, keep in mind it only took a few young soldiers to clear the sky. Now imagine what they could do to a "battlefield"

And this is the problem, being so detached from the actual killing, they can easily wipe out a bunch of villagers somewhere as though they are playing a video game, then just go home after work like nothing happened. This is scary and evil.


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War in any shape or form just sucks but will say drones sure desensitize the task and makes taking human life seem easier.

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Big Palmer luckey fan here,,,

Not all of it automous,,,,,,the helmet will also be a game changer on the battlefield

Would you rather have someone named Hoa or Dimitry develop the technology?

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