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Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: WI Outdoors] #8414970
06/05/25 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
What about paying school taxes when you don't have kids in school? That's a bigger issue if you ask me.


Property and school taxes are wealth taxes. We have
already payed for the scumbag parents education or lack of, and now are paying for their kids education or lack of. This is proof that public education is a failure. I’m in favor of feeding kids who have POS parents, but most will probably end up leeching on the system. My daughter in law teaches in an inner city school, many students have asked her,” why do we have to learn this stuff, we are going to live on welfare like our parents.”

Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: Squash] #8414978
06/05/25 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Squash
Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
What about paying school taxes when you don't have kids in school? That's a bigger issue if you ask me.


Property and school taxes are wealth taxes. We have
already payed for the scumbag parents education or lack of, and now are paying for their kids education or lack of. This is proof that public education is a failure. I’m in favor of feeding kids who have POS parents, but most will probably end up leeching on the system. My daughter in law teaches in an inner city school, many students have asked her,” why do we have to learn this stuff, we are going to live on welfare like our parents.”

Of course it's a failure. Its designed to be. Its gotten so much worse over time too

Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: Catch22] #8414983
06/05/25 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Originally Posted by PAskinner
In a perfect world, what you said would be correct. We don't live in a perfect world and I'd rather pay for the kid's lunch, as it's not his fault.

X2! I could not sit idle and let a youngin go hungry. It's not they're fault they have bad folks.


I'm obviously pretty conservative, but I am okay with paying taxes to make sure American children can eat and get a good education. I believe that's the right thing to do and believe that it benefits all of us.

Keith

Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: Squash] #8414985
06/05/25 04:38 PM
06/05/25 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Squash
Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
What about paying school taxes when you don't have kids in school? That's a bigger issue if you ask me.


Property and school taxes are wealth taxes. We have
already payed for the scumbag parents education or lack of, and now are paying for their kids education or lack of. This is proof that public education is a failure. I’m in favor of feeding kids who have POS parents, but most will probably end up leeching on the system. My daughter in law teaches in an inner city school, many students have asked her,” why do we have to learn this stuff, we are going to live on welfare like our parents.”


If their bellies are full every day despite their parents selling their food stamps for drug money, and nothing is done to their parents for neglecting them, how could they ever learn to be anything other than a leech on society? It's a self-fulfilling prophecy that we just keep propagating.

They learn young that if their parents do nothing to better themselves, nothing bad happens. They send them to school with no lunch, and no money, but yet they eat as well as any other student. There no are no repercussions for the kids for not bringing lunch, and no repercussions for the parents for allowing that to happen.

If we insist on feeding kids without lunches, than they absolutely should NOT be getting the same lunch as everyone else. They should get the cheapest lunch possible, whether that be a scoop of white rice, a bowl of soup, or a bologna sandwich. Even though it is not their fault, they should still be made to feel ostracized. They should watch little Johnny eating a slice of pizza or a burger. Why? Because then they're gonna go home and they're gonna say something.

The vast majority of these "parents" that are taking advantage of the free lunch programs are not unable to feed their kids. They just, as White mentioned above, would rather spend their money on booze, drugs, tattoos or video games. If the kids come home every day fussing about how it's not fair that so and so gets pizza and they get rice, they might eventually get their parents to start giving them some lunch money.

Beyond that, kids that are a bit older will quickly come to realize that they're not entitled to what everyone else has, but only being given what's needed out of charity.


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Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: yotetrapper30] #8414986
06/05/25 04:39 PM
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I say any and all taxation is theft. I don’t care what they say they need it for. If they need money so bad I’d like to see the IRS come cut some timber in the pouring rain with me. But they don’t, so they must not need the money as much as I do? Prior to world war 1 there was no income taxes, it started as a “war tax” and it never went away after the war. You are technically allowed to write a letter to the IRS and inform them you don’t wish to participate in funding them, assuming you don’t already owe them money. My cousin has filed exempt for the last 15 years, they’ve never once sent him a letter or anything

Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: KeithC] #8414987
06/05/25 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Catch22

X2! I could not sit idle and let a youngin go hungry. It's not they're fault they have bad folks.


I'm obviously pretty conservative, but I am okay with paying taxes to make sure American children can eat and get a good education. I believe that's the right thing to do and believe that it benefits all of us.

Keith


HOW can teaching people from 5 years old on up, that the government will support them, POSSIBLY benefit any of us???


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Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: yotetrapper30] #8414988
06/05/25 04:41 PM
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The national school lunch program or NSLP is a federal program that subsidizes all food or meals served to children in schools. There are higher subsidies for the lower income or free and reduced lunches served. States also contribute to these meals, at least in WI they do. The federal program is also available and utilized by private schools as well as public, but typically at lower levels due to higher family incomes for students in private schools.
I served on our local school board for 10 years starting in 1982. The percent of families qualifiying has increased considerably over time. May be one reason why many choose to have fewere children as the percentage of low income famiilies in the US is highest for families with minor children.

Bryce

Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: yotetrapper30] #8414989
06/05/25 04:42 PM
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I deposit money into my boys school account. All the kids get taxpayer provided breakfast and lunch if they need it, and I’m ok with that.

They have to fill out paperwork to prove it and I think it goes against the money they get for snap or whatever it’s called.


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Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: yotetrapper30] #8414990
06/05/25 04:44 PM
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Holy moly, WOW!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: Catch22] #8414995
06/05/25 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Holy moly, WOW!



It might not though, Delaware as liberal and insane as they are. Do try to limit fraud and waste.

But, I’m ok with kids getting fed. Not their fault the parents are poor. We don’t have a lot of welfare queens in my district.


Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!

Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: yotetrapper30] #8415000
06/05/25 04:53 PM
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I have another perspective…..in Kentucky they MADE every kid take a free breakfast and lunch. I fought it for years when they were trying to recruit everyone to take free lunch from the govt. by writing in big red letters on the form “ I wish to pay for my child’s lunch”. They finally fixed that by not being able to pay. Now every kids on a free everything and they even try to feed them through the summer. I didn’t want my kids growing up expecting free lunch. I wanted them to see lunch was earned. I didn’t really care about some getting it if they, and that was very debatable, needed it. Parents were buying beer, cigarettes, lottery tickets and eating out while taking the free lunch for their kids. I personally think that’s wrong and teaches the kids the wrong message.

Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: yotetrapper30] #8415003
06/05/25 04:56 PM
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I say leave the feeding the poor kids up to the church, similar entity, and/or the generosity of individuals. Leave .gov out of charity work.

Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: DelawareRob] #8415006
06/05/25 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DelawareRob
Originally Posted by Catch22
Holy moly, WOW!



It might not though, Delaware as liberal and insane as they are. Do try to limit fraud and waste.

But, I’m ok with kids getting fed. Not their fault the parents are poor. We don’t have a lot of welfare queens in my district.

My response was meant for Yotetrappers post saying little kids should not only feel repercussions but also be made to feel ostracized. That's one of the most heartless things I've ever read. With that said lol, Ang, we are beyond doubt at opposite ends of the spectrum on this subject matter so agree to disagree. I'm gonna rig some cat poles and listen to a ballgame.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: yotetrapper30] #8415010
06/05/25 05:10 PM
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LOL I may have worded that a bit harshly. smile

I remember being about 11 years old. We lived in a small town, where everyone knew everyone. My mom was divorced, and worked full time but still qualified for a small amount of food stamps. She was ashamed to use them, but did. Because I knew that she found it shameful, I did as well. I remember her trying to discreetly hand the cashier the food stamps and remember thinking "God, I hope none of my friends see this". I decided right then that I would NEVER be on welfare. And I never was. Although there were days I went hungry when I was a young adult and no doubt would have qualified. I ate a whole lot of Ramen.

My point is... people SHOULD be ashamed to expect the taxpayer to take care of them. And if they grow up in a house that tells them they are entitled to government money, and then go to school that reinforces that.... then who is to tell them that it is something to even be ashamed of??? They grow up thinking it is right, and just, when that couldn't be further from the truth. Someone needs to tell these kids that expecting others to pay their way in life is NOT something to be proud of.


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Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: yotetrapper30] #8415011
06/05/25 05:15 PM
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I remember people being so ashamed to have to be on food stamps they went to another town to grocery shop. Now if you don’t join the crowd, you just think you’re better than everyone else. Times have changed since the seventies and a much lowered acceptable self responsibility to feed the family along with it. I get what you’re trying to convey…..

Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: yotetrapper30] #8415012
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Catch 22, I agree with you.

Kids don't get to pick their parents.


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Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: yotetrapper30] #8415014
06/05/25 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
LOL I may have worded that a bit harshly. smile

I remember being about 11 years old. We lived in a small town, where everyone knew everyone. My mom was divorced, and worked full time but still qualified for a small amount of food stamps. She was ashamed to use them, but did. Because I knew that she found it shameful, I did as well. I remember her trying to discreetly hand the cashier the food stamps and remember thinking "God, I hope none of my friends see this". I decided right then that I would NEVER be on welfare. And I never was. Although there were days I went hungry when I was a young adult and no doubt would have qualified. I ate a whole lot of Ramen.

My point is... people SHOULD be ashamed to expect the taxpayer to take care of them. And if they grow up in a house that tells them they are entitled to government money, and then go to school that reinforces that.... then who is to tell them that it is something to even be ashamed of??? They grow up thinking it is right, and just, when that couldn't be further from the truth. Someone needs to tell these kids that expecting others to pay their way in life is NOT something to be proud of.


Angela, we don't see eye to at many a time....

I could kiss you for this response, had one hand out back in 77 for some

fuel oil during the blizzard, never been so humiliated in my life

Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: yotetrapper30] #8415018
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I used to buy food stamps from my crazy injen neighbors for 33 cents on the dollar so they could buy beer,,,,


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Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: yotetrapper30] #8415019
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I don't look at it as welfare. If the state is going to make your kids be there during meal time then they should feed them. All of them, not just the poor kids.



Why just complain about the lunches? Why should tax payers pay to educate someone else's kids?

Re: "Free" School Lunches [Re: Vinke] #8415021
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It’s 50 cents on the dollar now in Kentucky for drug money. You’d have to live in amongst it to really see what fraud is going on.

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