Maybe when Jesus talks of the end times he talking about the end of a country, era or your own life. We'll all find out at our end of time.

I believe he speaks of all three scenarios. Depending on the context of the passage.
(As far as the reliability of the Bible goes.) Many of these prophecies have been fulfilled.
Obviously the end of life will answer Questions If there is life after death,
If not then it's just back to the dirt I suppose. Fulfilled prophecy is confirmation of course.
But my faith is because of the changes in my life. The Holy spirit moving and teaching me, and confirming in my heart God's existence. Anyone who has become born again and has the spirit guiding them would understand what I'm speaking of. Was blind but now I see. Just like Saul's conversation.
He went from being antichrist, persecuting Christ to being a warrior for Christ.
All by Revelation. He was blind till his eyes were open to truth.

Some people thought Hitler was the anti-Christ at that time. However, he didn't fit the prophesy. The anti-Christ is yet to come. Jesus will return after that happens.

(The antichrist will comes, Jesus will return after that happens. )

Trapper 7, if you could give verses or passages that comfirm the antichrist is coming.
And Jesus will return after that happens.
This would be helpful. Thank you.

I don't think most folks are quite prepared for the bloodshed when Jesus comes again on Earth....Rev 14:20

Isn't Revelation ch 14 about the distruction of Jerusalem?

This imagery with the destruction of Jerusalem can hardly be missed since similar language is used concerning the fall of the same city to the Babylonians in 586 B.C.: “The Lord has trampled Virgin Daughter Judah like grapes in a winepress” (Lam. 1:15).

Isn't Revelation ch 14 about the distruction of Jerusalem?

Yes it could be but it the book of Revelations was written in 96 AD by John, As stated above the 1st temple was destroyed in 586 BC and the Romans destroyed the 2nd temple in AD 70 during the Roman Jewish war that was from 66AD to 73 AD. The Babylonians were a major enemy of the Jews. The Romans were major enemies of the early Christians and Thus John even in isolation on Patmos was not inclined to dis the Romans.


Bryce

How come there is so much contention on what it says?

Because most Christians fall into one of two categories Danny.

Premillennialism or Amillennialism. These are two distinct eschatological views that differ in their understanding of the millennium and Christ's return. I think Zionism also plays a large role in which side of the divide one falls on.

I don't think John was worried about dissing the Roman's.
Also haven't seen any proof that revelations was written that late.

Because revelations is a highly symbolic book, and open to interpretation.

Or revelations is literal and folks think it is symbolic.

I didn't realize there was contention in this conversation.
No more than if we were talking about the best trap for Coyotes or how many drops of coyote urine is to much.
The thread is about the reliability of the Bible. Seeking reliability is Seeking truth. This conversation is amongst believers of different understanding and some who have doubts or maybe don't believe.
I ask questions for two reasons. One is because it's edifying and helps me understand other believers views.
The other is to share scripture. Chapters, verses, and passages in the way that I understand them.
And I voice my beliefs as a hope others will as well. And I'll answer questions as I would hope others would.
Is I'm responding to your question.

^^^Excellent post Giant Sage.

Chancey,
I know your a truth seeker.
My hope is that Husky will read all the responses and learn from the different views.
Ask questions and think outside the box = let scripture speak to him with an open mind.
I'm glad you are standing for your beliefs Husky. Keep reading and pray for truth and discernment.
When I was a babe in the faith I was gung-ho to preach the Gospel to all the would.
I had a young pastor tell me to keep reading. I cant tell you how many times his advice has popped back into my head. One of the armors of God is to have your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel.
This is most important to evangelize.

Yep!

Thanks for that Chancey.

I think the Olivet Discourse is a clue Jesus gives. He says, it will take place during the generation living at that time. The apostles are asking him, Matt 24:3, "Tell us, when will theses thing be and what will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age?" Then in verse 15: "Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the hold place." This is the antichrist. Prior to this are the clues he gives.

I feel the end of the age is we are currently living in the church age. It started with the apostles, Paul, and others as they were building the church. The church age will come to an end. We are seeing much of what Jesus said will come to be in this present time. After all this takes place Verse 30 says, "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and glory." John makes reference to this in Rev. 1:7 as well.

It's happening now and this is only the beginning.