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Re: Isreal- Heavy Bomber [Re: ol' dad] #8424338
06/22/25 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ol' dad
Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
It's not really there combat doctrine.
As a whole they prefer smaller surgical type attacks. MOSAD and the like. Like that one time someone got a flash drive with a virus into Irans nuke plant and sent them back like a decade..

Why spend money on a heavy bomber when you can have operatives do as much damage with a few pounds of semtex. Not to mention with you can just use drones and do what the Ukrainian did a week or so back and completely cripple parts of a military on the cheap

Honestly looking back .. the use of heavy bombers and bombing campaigns hasn't been the most effective thing since WWII.



This didn't age well.. lol

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Strategic bombing like we did and what most heavy bombers would do with carpet bombing and the like are two separate deals ... Still a smaller surgical strike vs carpet bombing the place smile


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Re: Isreal- Heavy Bomber [Re: Yes sir] #8424347
06/22/25 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
US could take a page from Israel when it comes to destroying ur enemies and winning a war. The memories of the holocaust might be a motivation

Too much "we want to play fair" mentality when it comes to war like Vietnam. Could have won that mess like they did with Iraq.


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Re: Isreal- Heavy Bomber [Re: SGT. C] #8424846
06/23/25 01:41 PM
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Re: Isreal- Heavy Bomber [Re: SGT. C] #8424851
06/23/25 01:46 PM
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B-2s are heavily classified from my understanding and by law can't be sold.

Re: Isreal- Heavy Bomber [Re: SGT. C] #8424864
06/23/25 01:55 PM
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Israel don't need a heavy bomber, they have nukes.

Re: Isreal- Heavy Bomber [Re: SGT. C] #8424866
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Weren’t they pushing these big pentrator bombs out of the back of C130’s during the battle at Tora Bora?

Re: Isreal- Heavy Bomber [Re: spjones] #8424872
06/23/25 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by spjones
Weren’t they pushing these big pentrator bombs out of the back of C130’s during the battle at Tora Bora?


No. They were using Daisy Cutters at Tora Bora


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Re: Isreal- Heavy Bomber [Re: SGT. C] #8424889
06/23/25 02:34 PM
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Trump dropped 1 MOAB, which is similar and uses a parachute.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/the-mother-all-bombs-is-big-its-no-nuke.htm


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Re: Isreal- Heavy Bomber [Re: SGT. C] #8425223
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Originally Posted by SGT. C
Wonder why Isreal doesn't have a bomber like the B-2 to deliver the 30,000 penetrator needed to reach Iran's deep nuclear bunkers.
Just curious why the US hasn't sold a couple to them. We sell everything else they use.

Sarge


IMO Sarge, it is because they don't need to purchase one. Why spend money on an expensive weapon when you control the foreign policy of the most powerful military force on earth? They can sit back and just let us eat the cost.


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Re: Isreal- Heavy Bomber [Re: Chancey] #8425254
06/23/25 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chancey
Originally Posted by SGT. C
Wonder why Isreal doesn't have a bomber like the B-2 to deliver the 30,000 penetrator needed to reach Iran's deep nuclear bunkers.
Just curious why the US hasn't sold a couple to them. We sell everything else they use.

Sarge


IMO Sarge, it is because they don't need to purchase one. Why spend money on an expensive weapon when you control the foreign policy of the most powerful military force on earth? They can sit back and just let us eat the cost.


One thing that is overlooked is what makes our bombers so effective and it aint the stealth.

Tankers

The B2s that hit Iran took off from CONUS and flew nonstop to target and back to CONUS for something like 36 hours in the air. That was only possible due to a series of prepositioned tankers for in flight refueling. The decoy B2s also had a series of refueling tankers as well.

This achieves two purposes. We can hit anywhere on the globe in short order and the direction of attack can come from any point on the compass.

Israel lacks the foreign bases to preposition tankers even if they spent the shekels limiting them to launching from one small New Jersey sized location and having range limited to just their immediate neighborhood.

That and heavy bombers are kind of a one trick pony when Israel's military situation is getting the most done with what you got.


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Re: Isreal- Heavy Bomber [Re: SGT. C] #8425259
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Good info Warrior. I thought several of them were stationed in Diego Garcia several months ago.


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Re: Isreal- Heavy Bomber [Re: Chancey] #8425272
06/24/25 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Chancey
Good info Warrior. I thought several of them were stationed in Diego Garcia several months ago.


Diego Garcia usually has Buffs, B52s, on hand. I believe the B2s rotate in and out as I think we try to keep our newest, read stealthiest classified, stuff close to the vest. I don't know the status of the B1 Bone other than it's our high speed bomber designed for the fly low and fast pop up on target drop and run fast home on the deck bomber. Stealth tech has pretty much done away with the need to fly under radar. The B1 is slated to be replaced when the B21 Raider comes on line sometime in the 30s or 40s.

The B52 is expected to serve into the 50s completing almost if not a full century of service.


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Re: Isreal- Heavy Bomber [Re: Trapper7] #8425275
06/24/25 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Originally Posted by Yes sir
US could take a page from Israel when it comes to destroying ur enemies and winning a war. The memories of the holocaust might be a motivation

Too much "we want to play fair" mentality when it comes to war like Vietnam. Could have won that mess like they did with Iraq.



Trouble with Iraq was Bush pulled out without finishing the first time.
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