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Re: Is it going to be “ go time “ in Iran?? [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #8420647
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog

As a Christian who believes in the Bible and Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior - the nation of Israel is a concern of mine. As an American who understands what One Nation Under God means, I disagree with you whole heartedly. Our nation has been greatly blessed as we have allied ourself with Israel - it is sad to see folks today not understand the depth of this relationship.


I am afraid you got something fundamentally wrong there.
Zion in the biblical sense is granted by god only to those purest of heart and free of sins.
Zionism on the contrary is a concept invented by the devil, letting people believe they have a right to sin to take what he makes them believe is entitled to them.
On judgment day, any of these sins will be on their balance sheet.

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Originally Posted by Manfred
Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog

As a Christian who believes in the Bible and Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior - the nation of Israel is a concern of mine. As an American who understands what One Nation Under God means, I disagree with you whole heartedly. Our nation has been greatly blessed as we have allied ourself with Israel - it is sad to see folks today not understand the depth of this relationship.


I am afraid you got something fundamentally wrong there.
Zion in the biblical sense is granted by god only to those purest of heart and free of sins.
Zionism on the contrary is a concept invented by the devil, letting people believe they have a right to sin to take what he makes them believe is entitled to them.
On judgment day, any of these sins will be on their balance sheet.

Have u got scripture that backs this up

Re: Is it going to be “ go time “ in Iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #8420670
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Religion aside. Iran was very close to a nuclear bomb, and had stated many times before their desire to wipe Israel off the face of the map.

Israel is doing precisely the right thing to preserve the Jewish nation, and Iran has severely underestimated who they were dealing with.


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Re: Is it going to be “ go time “ in Iran?? [Re: Yes sir] #8420695
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Have u got scripture that backs this up


Read the book by Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro: "The Empty Wagon: Zionism's journey from identity crisis to identity theft"

It is about the history of zionism and how it is antithetic to the historic concept of zion.
(For the zionists he of course is a self hating jew.)

For a biblical context for example Isaiah 1:21 to 1:31, especially 1:27
The text is about Jerusalem has fallen into sin and how it will be relieved.

I do not know how it is translated in your bible.
In German bibles, derived from Luther's translation it says in 1:27 that Jerusalem (Zion) will be relieved (from this sinfull state) by (return to) justice and those who return to justice by righteousness.
In an American bible I read
1:21
"See how the faithful city
has become a prostitute!
She once was full of justice;
righteousness used to dwell in her—
but now murderers!"
1:27
"Zion will be delivered with justice,
her penitent ones with righteousness."

Well, we are back at the status of 1:21 now (if we had ever left there) and waiting for 1:27.
And it won't be the murderers like Netanjahu who free Jerusalem from sin.

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Netanyahu is a murderer?... You have just disqualified everything you have previously said Manfred.


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Re: Is it going to be “ go time “ in Iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #8420732
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Anyone who needs to refer to "special translations" automatically fall into the "hidden wisdom" of gnosticism.

The apostle Paul warned us of that.


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Re: Is it going to be “ go time “ in Iran?? [Re: Manfred] #8420733
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Originally Posted by Manfred
Originally Posted by Yes sir
Have u got scripture that backs this up


Read the book by Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro: "The Empty Wagon: Zionism's journey from identity crisis to identity theft"

It is about the history of zionism and how it is antithetic to the historic concept of zion.
(For the zionists he of course is a self hating jew.)

For a biblical context for example Isaiah 1:21 to 1:31, especially 1:27
The text is about Jerusalem has fallen into sin and how it will be relieved.

I do not know how it is translated in your bible.
In German bibles, derived from Luther's translation it says in 1:27 that Jerusalem (Zion) will be relieved (from this sinfull state) by (return to) justice and those who return to justice by righteousness.
In an American bible I read
1:21
"See how the faithful city
has become a prostitute!
She once was full of justice;
righteousness used to dwell in her—
but now murderers!"
1:27
"Zion will be delivered with justice,
her penitent ones with righteousness."

Well, we are back at the status of 1:21 now (if we had ever left there) and waiting for 1:27.
And it won't be the murderers like Netanjahu who free Jerusalem from sin.



Maybe some time frames are screwed up here ......old testament...?


What about Ezekiel 38 39


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Re: Is it going to be “ go time “ in Iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #8420739
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That's some pretty lose interpretation. I'm always a big skeptic when talking Christianity and someone refers you to another book other than Bible.

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I see Netanyahu is of the tribe of Levi. I don't recall a Levite ruler/king of the nation of Israel mentioned in the Bible, was there any?

Re: Is it going to be “ go time “ in Iran?? [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #8420741
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Netanyahu is a murderer?... You have just disqualified everything you have previously said Manfred.


Even the International Criminal Court wants him for murder.
https://www.np-coburg.de/inhalt.ste...9fe4355-e869-47e4-91ae-1792831e5cc0.html
I understand many of you US-Americans like the International Court only when it is prosecuting your enemies and hate it when it wishes to prosecute your own, but it does not change the deeds.

Who do you think ordered all the murders of scientists, officers, politicians, journalists, etc. that are happening in Teheran these days?
In the law of most countries if a murder happens on your order, you are considered a murderer yourself.

Off course these are only human laws. As a christian or jew one might face a higher court if ones belives prove true.

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The international court is a political joke nowadays

Re: Is it going to be “ go time “ in Iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #8420748
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International Court?

We don't need no International court

God has deemed Israel and the Jewish people of major importance.

If you're not on board with that .......well .....you're screwed , it's that simple


Netanjahu.....is defending his people with the blessing of the good lord

You don't have to like it , but that's how it's going to go down

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Re: Is it going to be “ go time “ in Iran?? [Re: AntiGov] #8420749
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
International Court?

We don't need no International court

God has deemed Israel and the Jewish people of major importance.

If you're not on board with that .......well .....you're screwed , it's that simple


Netanjahu.....is defending his people with the blessing of the good lord

You don't have to like it , but that's how it's going to go down


… I thought they deny Christ lol

… and for the record I don’t care for Iranian sand monkeys


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Re: Is it going to be “ go time “ in Iran?? [Re: foxkidd44] #8420756
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Most Jews still don’t believe that JESUS was the messiah,, they do believe he was a prophet,, and extremely important,,,, almost on the same playing field as Elijah.
But the Jewish people are still GODS chosen people. I’m not smart enough to know all the whys and why nots.. all I do know is that revelation mentions Armageddon, and it’s in the land of Israel, and GOD brings his full might against the enemies of Israel.


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…. Isn’t there something like a seven headed dragon in there too ?


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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Religion aside. Iran was very close to a nuclear bomb, and had stated many times before their desire to wipe Israel off the face of the map.

Israel is doing precisely the right thing to preserve the Jewish nation, and Iran has severely underestimated who they were dealing with.



Let’s not forget folks, they have not only stated that about Israel, but the good ol USA many many times. I would not donate my urine to put out their fires if they get even more stupid. If they decide to flex, make glass I say…


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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
Most Jews still don’t believe that JESUS was the messiah,, they do believe he was a prophet,, and extremely important,,,, almost on the same playing field as Elijah.
But the Jewish people are still GODS chosen people. I’m not smart enough to know all the whys and why nots.. all I do know is that revelation mentions Armageddon, and it’s in the land of Israel, and GOD brings his full might against the enemies of Israel.


…. Fairly sure they consider him a false prophet lol


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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by foxkidd44
Most Jews still don’t believe that JESUS was the messiah,, they do believe he was a prophet,, and extremely important,,,, almost on the same playing field as Elijah.
But the Jewish people are still GODS chosen people. I’m not smart enough to know all the whys and why nots.. all I do know is that revelation mentions Armageddon, and it’s in the land of Israel, and GOD brings his full might against the enemies of Israel.


…. Fairly sure they consider him a false prophet lol


To paraphrase Ben Shapiro, a rabbi that got himself killed.


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There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Originally Posted by hippie


… old news I think …. Didn’t do anything to the price

…. It surprisingly went down today

… if I get layed off can we come live with you lol


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