Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
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Just the opposite here. I would like to hear more about Jesus and less about this sin or that sin. Yes, preach against sin, but don't pretend there are some extra bad sins, if you know what I mean. Don't rip on the homos to make yourself look good. When was the last time you heard a sermon on gluttony. Why not? Because it's an "acceptable "sin in our culture. My opinion is just preach the gospel and quit categorizing sin.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
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06/18/25 01:17 PM
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Who doesn’t know their sin?
Get out much and talk with people? Those confused folks outside are some of the same who come inside, along with their thoughts, opinions, and traditions.
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
[Re: Preacherman Les]
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06/18/25 01:34 PM
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Who doesn’t know their sin?
Get out much and talk with people? Those confused folks outside are some of the same who come inside, along with their thoughts, opinions, and traditions. Then perhaps the sermon should be about the danger and fear of God handing one over to their sin and them no longer being able to recognize them.
-Goofy
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
[Re: 2zwudz]
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06/18/25 01:48 PM
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Hard to talk about stuff and look good and keep your flock when your doing a lot of the same. Idk about y'all but lotta churches down here are kinda culty , lotta the church leads aren't the best people, women folk doin all sorts of stuff to keep their attention, basically a harem to a point. Open secrets. Seen a few out of the loop pastors and the like come in bring it up and then they where gone next Sunday or two... Not killed or anything but where politely told they were not welcome. Talk about it and people get very uncomfortable and try to change subjects. That or they try and completely disregard it and gas light you into thinking your in the wrong Also find it odd when they'll go on rants using the few verses in Leviticus going on about gay people but then just skip over the next few talking about not lusting after other mens women and cheating ,the like.... Like we're really just gonna cherry pick like that ?  honestly the minute the book of Leviticus is brought up I roll my eyes because the cherry picking is always amazing
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
[Re: 2zwudz]
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06/18/25 02:02 PM
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If ur church isn't teaching the whole Bible front to back id be looking for a new church. Its getting to the point in this country where we want to be our own gods pick and chose want we want to believe and follow.
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
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If ur church isn't teaching the whole Bible front to back id be looking for a new church. Its getting to the point in this country where we want to be our own gods pick and chose want we want to believe and follow. X2. IMO, I think a lot of Churches nowadays aren't doing God's work, how can they when the foundation they built on is on sand. I don't know much but I know 50 years ago things were some different. Finding a good Preacher man, Elders and Deacons that "qualify" according to the word, is not that common nowadays. I mean if we're going by the bible are Women and gay Preachers ok? I don't think a modern Church that is truly with God is easy to find anymore but I'm sure they're out there, keep looking and praying that God will lead you where you are supposed to be.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
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06/18/25 03:14 PM
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So how many of you been divorced and remarried while your original spouse is alive? Most churches will not teach about that. And I am sure I just made a BUNCH of folks mad........ We teach about it and practice it. A few months ago a guy wanted to join us who had been divorced several times. We discussed this with him, and how the Bible teaches he cannot remarry. He chose to go somewhere else. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
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So how many of you been divorced and remarried while your original spouse is alive? Most churches will not teach about that. And I am sure I just made a BUNCH of folks mad........ Also says don’t murder. lol Also says you should live without a woman if you can. Says you can’t wear garments that aren’t made of a single source. Says if you think it, you’ve already committed it in your heart. So how do we undo all of that?
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
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So how many of you been divorced and remarried while your original spouse is alive? Most churches will not teach about that. And I am sure I just made a BUNCH of folks mad........ We teach about it and practice it. A few months ago a guy wanted to join us who had been divorced several times. We discussed this with him, and how the Bible teaches he cannot remarry. He chose to go somewhere else. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,
If he ends up nowhere, I wonder what your reward will be for turning him away from Christ instead of toward Him.
-Goofy
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
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So how many of you been divorced and remarried while your original spouse is alive? Most churches will not teach about that. And I am sure I just made a BUNCH of folks mad........ We teach about it and practice it. A few months ago a guy wanted to join us who had been divorced several times. We discussed this with him, and how the Bible teaches he cannot remarry. He chose to go somewhere else. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,
I mean Paul was a murderer...the question isn't what people have done, but if they are willing to change.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
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So how many of you been divorced and remarried while your original spouse is alive? Most churches will not teach about that. And I am sure I just made a BUNCH of folks mad........ Also says don’t murder. lol Also says you should live without a woman if you can. Says you can’t wear garments that aren’t made of a single source. Says if you think it, you’ve already committed it in your heart. So how do we undo all of that? Well the one about clothes doesn't apply. We aren't under Torah laws. If we were we'd be sacrifice sheep at the temple. But the thing is, there's no one who doesn't fall short, and if we think no sinning keeps us saved we don't understand the gospel.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
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Also says you should live without a woman if you can.
I think you're referring to 1 Corinthians 7:6-11? Paul makes it clear that is his personal preference with qualifiers like "not of command", "I wish", etc. Then when he gets back to binding instruction from the Lord he says "I give instructions, not I, but the Lord" Its ironic to this discussion that "not I but the Lord" immediately preceeds telling people who are unscripturally divorced that they are not allowed to remarry. 6 But this I say by way of concession, not of command. 7 Yet I wish that all men were even as I myself am. However, each man has his own gift from God, one in this manner, and another in that. 8 But I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I. 9 But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. 10 But to the married I give instructions, not I, but the Lord, that the wife should not leave her husband 11 (but if she does leave, she must remain unmarried, or else be reconciled to her husband), and that the husband should not divorce his wife.
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
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So how many of you been divorced and remarried while your original spouse is alive? Most churches will not teach about that. And I am sure I just made a BUNCH of folks mad........ Yeah, you didn't know my first wife......
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
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Also says you should live without a woman if you can.
I think you're referring to 1 Corinthians 7:6-11? Paul makes it clear that is his personal preference with qualifiers like "not of command", "I wish", etc. Then when he gets back to binding instruction from the Lord he says "I give instructions, not I, but the Lord" Its ironic to this discussion that "not I but the Lord" immediately preceeds telling people who are unscripturally divorced that they are not allowed to remarry. 6 But this I say by way of concession, not of command. 7 Yet I wish that all men were even as I myself am. However, each man has his own gift from God, one in this manner, and another in that. 8 But I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I. 9 But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. 10 But to the married I give instructions, not I, but the Lord, that the wife should not leave her husband 11 (but if she does leave, she must remain unmarried, or else be reconciled to her husband), and that the husband should not divorce his wife.
Can you google up some self righteous verses for me, my internet is down at the house?
-Goofy
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Re: Churches avoiding teachings?
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