X2. IMO, I think a lot of Churches nowadays aren't doing God's work, how can they when the foundation they built on is on sand. I don't know much but I know 50 years ago things were some different.

Finding a good Preacher man, Elders and Deacons that "qualify" according to the word, is not that common nowadays. I mean if we're going by the bible are Women and gay Preachers ok? I don't think a modern Church that is truly with God is easy to find anymore but I'm sure they're out there, keep looking and praying that God will lead you where you are supposed to be.

So how many of you been divorced and remarried while your original spouse is alive? Most churches will not teach about that. And I am sure I just made a BUNCH of folks mad........

We teach about it and practice it. A few months ago a guy wanted to join us who had been divorced several times. We discussed this with him, and how the Bible teaches he cannot remarry. He chose to go somewhere else.

Thank you for teaching Biblical truth

Also says don’t murder. lol

Also says you should live without a woman if you can.

Says you can’t wear garments that aren’t made of a single source.

Says if you think it, you’ve already committed it in your heart.

So how do we undo all of that?

If he ends up nowhere, I wonder what your reward will be for turning him away from Christ instead of toward Him.

I mean Paul was a murderer...the question isn't what people have done, but if they are willing to change.

Well the one about clothes doesn't apply. We aren't under Torah laws. If we were we'd be sacrifice sheep at the temple.
But the thing is, there's no one who doesn't fall short, and if we think no sinning keeps us saved we don't understand the gospel.

I think you're referring to 1 Corinthians 7:6-11?

Paul makes it clear that is his personal preference with qualifiers like "not of command", "I wish", etc. Then when he gets back to binding instruction from the Lord he says "I give instructions, not I, but the Lord" Its ironic to this discussion that "not I but the Lord" immediately preceeds telling people who are unscripturally divorced that they are not allowed to remarry.

Yeah, you didn't know my first wife......

Can you google up some self righteous verses for me, my internet is down at the house?

Legalism, man laws .........rabbit hole

Serious question: what if the wife divorced him? I don't see that addressed because it probably couldn't legally happen at that time. But it presents a dilemma for a guy who wants to know if he can marry again if he didn't initiate the divorce.

So I guess you believe in continual sin? If you murder a guy how many times can you kill him? He is still dead every day, is he not? So are you killing him every day continually?

Oh, by the way I'm married to the only woman I've ever known for 42 years. Just so you know I'm interested in the truth, and not looking for a way out for a situation I might be in.

What you are trying to say is you can't marry again because you would be married to two women and in your way of thinking that would be adultery. The adultery is committed the first time you looked at the other woman. Yes when you divorce and remarry that first glance was adultery. When you divorce you are breaking your vow. If you break a glass how many more times can you break it? A church such as you speak is a continual ship wreck that breaks faith and good conscience of any passing by.

Alexander the copper smith and Hymenaeus were a couple of characters Paul had to deal with. Hymenaeus means the "god of marriage". When we put other gods ahead of God he tends to be jealous. Rich men have rich idols and poor men have poor idols, whether they are gold or wood its still just an idol !

God said all marriages are honorable. Sometimes we have preconceived ideas, but does God have to take the back seat, no way Hosea !

If a woman in a dire situation could not remarry it could be a death penalty for her. God Hates putting away.

In your own words I probably just made a BUNCH of folks mad, lol.

I wonder if a woman divorced her husband because he was abusing the kids and remarried another while he was still living, would she be considered an adulterous for doing so? If she stays married to him should she tie a millstone around her neck and cast herself into the sea for allowing the abuse to continue? How about a nonbeliever divorcing and marrying another but afterwards becomes a believer in Christ, should she divorce her present husband so as to not commit adulatory?
Now it's way above my pay scale but I figure the Good Lord would consider the reason, not just cheating as mentioned in the text, for the divorce.

J, there are scriptures' that cover this and are interpreted vastly, not sure why. They cover things like adultery, abandonment and so on.

Serious attempt at an answer: I can see several ways to interpret your question.

If you're asking: are the rules sexist (different rules for men vs women), as I see it, gender is irrelevant. For readability its helpful to use terms like husband & wife, but I believe flipping who's on what side of it is equally valid.

Or if you're asking "what if an innocent person's spouse divorces them, what does this mean for the innocent party"
Jesus addressed that:


Jesus is referring to in the Old Testament times Jews had started ignoring God's teaching on divorce and were allowing divorce for any reason. The high level point of Jesus's comment is to say that is not ok.
I would equate "unchastity" with the "adultery" term used elsewhere, consistent with the idea that God accepts divorcing an unfaithful spouse, and the innocent party is free to remarry.

As for the rest of what's in those verses, I think the underlying assumption is that (at that time) women had limited options for supporting themselves, so a womam must remarry to avoid starving. So if a man divorces his wife for (insert random reason here), she has to marry again to avoid starving. But after an unscriptural divoce, even the innocent party is not authorized to remarry. God will not recognize their new marriage as valid, so by remarrying they are living in adultery.

If someone sees another way to read that I'd be interested in hearing it. But that is what I believe Jesus is saying.

Jesus was pretty hard lined in that divorce was only allowed when fornication occurs. That's why I said it was above my pay scale when I referred to "other reasons for divorce".

I'm not sure why the whole divorce and remarriage thing is so hard. Jesus spoke directly about it, he didn't beat around the bush. Remarriage for reason other than fornication is adultery.

Now, that being said......what does repentance for what Jesus calls an adulterous relationship look like? Does Jesus want a remarried couple to stay together in what He calls an adulterous relationship, because breaking up the relationship would be extremely inconvenient and uncomfortable?

1 Corinthians 7;15 Matthew 5;32 and 19;9 come to mind, maybe they'll help!