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Re: Somebody else's war [Re: Leftlane] #8424452
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Is it true that those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it? Anyone remember how staying out of WWII worked out for us?

I'm just tryin to figure out if the gals with their panties in a wad are really opposed to taking action against our enemies or just against anything the current president does...

What say you?

I remember my dad having on the evening news, seeing and hearing the images of the hostages. Even as a kid I wondered why in the heck the U.S. was letting that go on. Maybe some of whom you mention don't have those memories....

Re: Somebody else's war [Re: Leftlane] #8424538
06/22/25 09:27 PM
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I remember that for sure. Under Carter they was brave as could be- Reagan gets amellected and bam! Just like that our hostages were freed.

I'm not particularly fond of anything we need to do in the middle east but this thing needed to be done. JMO


What"s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.
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Re: Somebody else's war [Re: Leftlane] #8424561
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Yes, we are Israel's slaves. Soldiers who were in Afghanistan are saying the same. Just another war of convenience that we didn't need to be in, but we have to scratch backs.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Somebody else's war [Re: Leftlane] #8424562
06/22/25 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Is it true that those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it? Anyone remember how staying out of WWII worked out for us?

I'm just tryin to figure out if the gals with their panties in a wad are really opposed to taking action against our enemies or just against anything the current president does...

What say you?


I remember my dad telling me that . we knew about the attack on PH before it happened.
That's why the carriers were all out to sea.
We had to get involved, as our merchant ships were under attack , as well as any ship in the Atlantic!


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Somebody else's war [Re: 160user] #8424567
06/22/25 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 160user
Originally Posted by Buzzard



I need what your smoking


I will have Vinke gift you some. I hope you aren't busy for the next few days.


My cactus plants are doing wonderful……..


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Re: Somebody else's war [Re: Vinke] #8424568
06/22/25 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Vinke


My cactus plants are doing wonderful……..


Actually, those are potatoes.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Somebody else's war [Re: PAskinner] #8424572
06/22/25 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
Yes, we are Israel's slaves. Soldiers who were in Afghanistan are saying the same. Just another war of convenience that we didn't need to be in, but we have to scratch backs.


Just wondering why Iseral is responsible for Afghanistan?
If I remember right they were hiding and protecting our worst enemy ,Osama bin Laden.
I still wonder why he was supposedly buried at sea!
He was never in any navy!
Obama cover up? Maybe?


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Somebody else's war [Re: Leftlane] #8424581
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Maybe we could learn from our historic mistakes in something that more closely parralls Iran like Iraq, Syria and Libya...

Re: Somebody else's war [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8424587
06/22/25 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Maybe we could learn from our historic mistakes in something that more closely parralls Iran like Iraq, Syria and Libya...


Iran has threatened our country for years.
Iran is backing the attacks on the shipping of many countries.

Since 2014, Yemen has endured a brutal civil war that pits the Houthis — who receive substantial funding and weaponry from Iran — against Yemen’s internationally recognized government and an international coalition led by Saudi Arabia (and supported by the United States). As of last year, the United Nations estimated that the nearly decade-old war has killed more than 377,000 people — most due to malnutrition, unsafe water, and poor medical services, all exacerbated by conflict — though the violence has died down since a UN-brokered ceasefire in 2022. Today, the Houthis control about one-third of Yemen’s territory and 70 percent of its population.

Container ship captains who make the run between Europe and Asia are about to become reacquainted with the Cape of Good Hope, making a long swing around Africa in a route that has been largely obsolete since the opening of the Suez Canal more than 150 years ago.

Since mid-November, Houthi rebels in the Middle Eastern country of Yemen have been attacking shipping in the Red Sea, firing drones and missiles and, in some cases, boarding and seizing vessels. The Houthis, who are backed by Iran, say the attacks are in solidarity with their Palestinian allies in Hamas. In response, most of the world’s largest container shipping companies — including Denmark’s Maersk, Germany’s Hapag-Lloyd, and China’s Cosco — have stopped shipments through the Red Sea. The oil company BP is doing so as well. An estimated 7 million barrels of oil normally travel through the sea per day.

The situation escalated rapidly this week. On January 10, the Houthis launched their largest attack yet, firing more than 20 missiles and drones at US allied warships in the region. The US and several of its allies responded the next day with military strikes against more than a dozen Houthi targets in Yemen.


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Somebody else's war [Re: Leftlane] #8424608
06/22/25 11:54 PM
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It will be interesting to see what gold and silver do on Monday…..
You can only hope it goes down because “their” economy is supported by it….

Dang county has got to poop


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Re: Somebody else's war [Re: Leftlane] #8424624
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Will likely ruin the Trump Presidency. It's a shame because he could have been the most consequential president in recent history. He will likely now lose both houses in the mid-terms. Oil is already up and hard to see how it doesn't go higher. Inflation back and it kills the Trump economy. The Neocons and Deep State are back in control. It's a virtual coup and Trump fell for it.

Re: Somebody else's war [Re: humptulips] #8424626
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Originally Posted by humptulips
Will likely ruin the Trump Presidency. It's a shame because he could have been the most consequential president in recent history. He will likely now lose both houses in the mid-terms. Oil is already up and hard to see how it doesn't go higher. Inflation back and it kills the Trump economy. The Neocons and Deep State are back in control. It's a virtual coup and Trump fell for it.



WOW a comment from the peanut gallery !


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Somebody else's war [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8424628
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Originally Posted by humptulips
Will likely ruin the Trump Presidency. It's a shame because he could have been the most consequential president in recent history. He will likely now lose both houses in the mid-terms. Oil is already up and hard to see how it doesn't go higher. Inflation back and it kills the Trump economy. The Neocons and Deep State are back in control. It's a virtual coup and Trump fell for it.



WOW a comment from the peanut gallery !

What a well thought out rebuttal.

Re: Somebody else's war [Re: yotetrapper30] #8424630
06/23/25 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I reckon some just can't admit Trump did anything right, others are against our involvement because they're antisemites, and others are just cowardly. That's my thoughts anyhow from reading posts on here these past couple weeks.

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Which semites are you referencing? Pretty short- sighted to think that jews are the only semites in the world.


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Re: Somebody else's war [Re: Leftlane] #8424631
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The generally accepted definition of the word. If you google anti-semite, this is the definition that pops up first.

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Proudly banned from the NTA.

Bother me tomorrow. Today I'll buy no sorrows.
Re: Somebody else's war [Re: Leftlane] #8424633
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Well. The greatest enemy of freedom is a happy slave.
He doesn't care about constitution. Even after he's been given one, he doesn't care about it as long as he can serve his masters.

Re: Somebody else's war [Re: Manfred] #8424643
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Originally Posted by Manfred
Well. The greatest enemy of freedom is a happy slave.
He doesn't care about constitution. Even after he's been given one, he doesn't care about it as long as he can serve his masters.


Did we set you up with one of them after the last WW?


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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There sure is a lot of support on t-man for Iran to have nuclear weapons.

Re: Somebody else's war [Re: hippie] #8424658
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Originally Posted by hippie
Did we set you up with one of them after the last WW?


There is still debate whether our so called Grundgesetz (which translates to basic law) is a constitution (Verfassung).
Most lawyers say yes, but they need book-length commentaries to justify this position.

Grundgesetz Art. 146 says:
"This Basic Law, which shall apply to the entire German people after the completion of the unity and freedom of Germany, shall cease to be valid on the day on which a constitution adopted by the German people in a free decision comes into force."

Many say "adopted by the German people in a free decision" means in a referendum.
It would be easy to end this discussion by holding a referendum.
But politicians are preventing this by all means. They seem to be afraid this would open fundamental door for further referendums.


Regardless of this fundamental discussion, the Germans and their politicians are no different from the Americans. They refer to the Basic Law when it benefits them and ignore it when it's convenient.
That's why we are losing our freedom more and more, just like you are.

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Re: Somebody else's war [Re: yotetrapper30] #8424659
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
The generally accepted definition of the word. If you google anti-semite, this is the definition that pops up first.

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Semites doesn’t include these Ashkenazi deep state Jews that run Israel…


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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