Seen a post about treating foxes and coyotes with mange some place where you call into to report sightings. Then they linked it to rodent poison? I’m betting theres a donation angle associated with this do gooder outfit. They mentioned mites but the poison part threw me they will try anything to scam a buck out of people.

I don’t see how eating poisoned rodents could possibly cause mange. But maybe I’m missing something?

Maybe as a weaker animal they're less able to survive mange?

Poison weakens an animal's immune system, which makes it less effective at killing parasites.

Keith

It’s a stretch by any measure is my though I was thinking global warming as the cause of it. LOL

Rodenticides typically have 3 modes of action on an animal. It is either a stomach toxicant, a hemmorraghing affect or it has a neurological affect upon them. It all depends upon the active poison ingredient consumed.

It also depends upon the amount of poison consumed in relation to the animals body weight to achieve what is referred to as a lethal dose. Some poisons can deliver a lethal dose if consumed even in larger animals. However, some larger animals can eat considerable amounts of some poisons without a fatal result.

I haven't read any studies on mange being a side affect to a poisons' consumption. I will have to research this. May be a scam to meet some agenda.

You guys (Carl and Keith) are assuming fox and coyotes can recover from mange without intervention. I don't know about other types of fox and coyotes but I've read where red fox rarely do.

Therefore, a weakened immune system would not be a factor, at least not in reds and I suspect in other canines as well.

I don't know that mange is rarely a naturally reversible condition once it is contracted. From my experience it is totally fatal without intervention or treatment with Ivermectin. It causes considerable hair loss over time and eventual death due to hyperthermia and other health conditions related to the mite infection. Animals in southern climates would fare much better due to the weather conditions.

After standing down wind from a few poor yotes that looks like poodles and smelling the nasty rot I doubt survival was an option but it was upper MI mid winter and there it was.

I know that smell all too well. Mange usually starts on the tails of red fox here, sometimes the back legs. Even with only a small amount of hair loss on their tails that "mange stink" is noticeable and it only gets worse as it spreads.

Had a roadkilled yote pup once covered with a larger type of lice they covered the eye lids all the way around the eyes nasty looking it might of ran in front of a vehicle on purpose.

If I remember right from several years ago this was a talking point for the anti-poisoning Praire dog folks. Thought they were grasping at straws and it went away fairly quickly. Now it must be back.

This is nothing new,. Paper have been written about the use of poison.

The mites that cause mange are present on a large percentage of canines. The numbers of mites are small enough they aren't noticed until the immune system is compromised enough that the mites have a population boom.

Keith

Back when no-till was just starting , mice eating the seed was a problem and we would spread some kind of rodenticide with fertilizer to kill the mice. But don't think that practice is still used around here any way. Can't imagine there would be a problem with the limited amount of poison around farm buildings being that big of a problem.

I’ve always seen mange come through in waves its here for a few years then it’s gone for a while or in some areas but not in others.

Studies I've read indicated that may be true of Demodetic mites that live in hair follicles.

Sarcoptes scabiei mites, the ones that cause Sarcoptic mange, are much more common and infestation is always more severe. I do not think they live on host species without causing mange like Demodex mites do.

TRUMP did it

Some poisons, and other med's like Ivermectin will help cure Mange.

even after treatment the hair follicles are messed up and regrown hair is not perfect as the patch comes back