Never before have I heard of this. But because of extreme lodging in wheat it has to be cut extremely low and where deer have bedded they leave excrement on the wheat and is rejected esp. for wheat for food use. Anyone ever hear of this?

Looks like the state would keep their deer penned up and out of the fields and off the roads, lol.

Many are replanting deer damage in beans. Deer are working on the corn and coon damage is getting worse yearly.

Coon hunted down on the IL IN border years back I was shocked at the amount of damage that deer do to crops.

With all the Listeria outbreaks, Ag is getting tougher. In the orchards here feces of any kind needs policed and cleaned up before any harvest happens. Fruit with bird feces is placed in special bins and disposed of, and gloves changed before returning to picking. Irrigation water is sampled weekly and tested. Sweet corn fields are the same way!

The link below shows some common diseases humans can pick up when coming in contact with deer feces or urine.

Bryce

https://www.google.com/search?q=Wha...9_2RCFE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

when they put up and exclusion fence in hay fields deer like to frequent , the hay will be inches to a foot higher in the exclusion fence than the rest of that field.

there are 3 places with hay around where I have hunted the last 34 years

most every deer I have opened up in the last 25 years since the hay was on 2 adjacent properties has had a belly full of alfalfa hay the other place had hay all along but is over a mile as the crow flies not all of them got over there

shouldn't leave out turkey damage to corn , complaint here is coon will pull down your corn and eat it , turkey will pull down your corn eat the top inch off a cob and pull down another one and repeat.

Ever seen what elk can do to a pivot of soybeans? About 10k. Corn too.

It’s a never ending battle. Deer do thousands of dollars damage to our crops every growing season. We have crop damage permits to control them, it helps but just creates a nocturnal problem. Counted 59 deer a few weeks ago on our home farm over about 250 acres of corn and beans. Yes the exclusion fence really shows the damage they do, in other words, what your crop could have been.

It’s not going to get better, not many folks eat a lot of venison ( I know the trapperman group does- but a lot of folks just chase horns ). I enjoy hunting bucks too, but I’ll do my share and wack plenty of slick heads too.

Sounds like the wheat buyers have found an excuse to pay less for wheat.

There isn't a wheat field on this continent that dont have deer in it at times.

Farmers are gonna have to keep that combine head up outta the dirt.

There's so many hunters here that if someone is having crop damage it's because they won't allow hunting, much of the state is a one deer limit.

Its not a matter of paying less, they simply won't buy it. The farmer may in fact get less due to transportation to a source that needs feed. The wheat is lodged as bad as I've seen it and its laying flat and maybe a foot deep and the deer crap on it, the only way to get it is to get down low. Rest assured they won't run a bit lower than they have to. The crap ain't on the dirt, its on top of the wheat. After they eat alot of green beans and corn its pretty runny too! Its not the deers fault the wheat is down, but its the deers fault there is deer crap in it. The deer have been having little ones a few weeks and the does are still herded up. Our county Farm Bureau had a $25 bounty on does last season for members only and taken legally but haven't made a dent in the population.

some farmers around here make as much money leasing hunting rights as they do farming they can take a little hit on their yeilds

Ever see what Jose and hose B can do to a strawberry patch ?

This is not about crop damage. This is a case where wheat grain heads due to lodging are laying on the ground and absorbing soil based bacteria, micro- organisms etc. Thus it will be determned to be used as feed grade wheat, not unlike when funguses and bacteria and other organisms like DON etc. cause the wheat to be degraded to feed usage. We have had that issue up here some seasons due to our heavy yields and our cooler wetter heavy clay soils. Yes it does lower value quite a bit, and causes real storage issues for grain handlers when they have to separate the feed grade grain from the food grain.

Bryce

I freaking hate deer. They make growing stuff a major pain.

In Oregon there was a death and some seriously ill folks a few years back from deer being in a strawberry patch. E coil.

Used to be able to salvage dropped apples for cider, that stopped...all farmers here have fence on the vegetable fields now, most places have nuisance permits...nuisance guys just let them lay where they drop, not supposed to shoot bucks but the farmers want them ALL gone.

So here's a question....Farmers want the deer dead, if they're having that much damage and loss of income, why won't they pay per deer to someone that can rack them up? Lot of the nuisance guys here play at it to get hunting permission later on, they're not that effective, but put a decent bounty on them and watch the numbers climb....but that means the farmer has to pay up....I get that farmers want it done for free, but if the damage is that severe there has to be a point when it's worthwhile.

When the state or town contracts out to professional killers, they pay huge money, and that only slows the deer down short term....dropping deer numbers has to be an ongoing cull, and take 60 % per year to START seeing a difference....

I'm not anti farmer, but I have no recourse when schools of Dogfish devastate the crabs either....and it affects my bottom line...

I guess what goes around comes around. Here is an article from 2011 so it ain't new.

https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/avoiding_contamination_of_your_wheat_grain

I find the two sides of this forum amusing.

On one hand when its deer season we all oooh and ahhh over a set of antlers. That mindset of trophy hunting results in poor management of the deer herd. Policies that have been proposed that might limit the deer herd are fought against. Earn a buck for one.

Then on threads like this we all groan and moan about the damage that deer do to crops. Just one of the damages that they do, look into forest products, auto ins. rates and environmental damage deer cause.

The solution is simple, there is too many deer. Optimual herd size in my area is approx 6-8 dee/sq mile, yet our herd size is around 25/sq mile. I've seen other areas out east where its in the 50/sq mile. That's 4-5 times larger than it should be. If we as so called conservation/sportsmen advocates really cared about the deer herd, the woods and feilds along with the other critters that live there we'd demand measures to greatly reduce the herd.

But no, we think short term and of our our individual selves. We want more deer, more bigger antlers. Anyone who really cares about the herd would be shooting does, as many and as often as possible and letting the bucks walk.

In your first bit it sounds like the farmers are doing something about the deer, fencing and nuisance permits.

In your second bit you ask why farmers won't pay to have have someone "rack them up". But if they have permits then either they or someone is shooting them.

Trouble is that if I shoot every deer on my 40 acre farm they all will be replaced tomorrow from the surrounding areas where they aren't shot.

Deer reproduce like rabbits. Wipe out 90% and in a couple of years we'll be right back to where we are now.

We need to hit them hard state wide for a couple of years till the herd is a fraction of what it is now then we have to keep the harvest up from there on to keep them at a lower level. It might seem counterproductive but the end result will be healthier deer and larger deer, bigger antlers for the trophy hunters only if the herd is brought into a much lower level.

not me if it's brown . it's down

ok I let the ones that would be like filleting a minnow go and grown now , getting soft with age , but soon as they spots are clearly off a season freezer land

We only get 1 or 2 tags a year so I try and shoot bugger bodied deer. I wish we had deer numbers like some talk about in this thread, it'd save me having to kill a beef every year

we had 28 tags this last season in camp we don't even try and fill them all just the freezer

Dirt, Not every farmer here grows vegetables, but they all complain about deer, read what I said again, you're basically saying the same thing..nuisance permits are useless unless they're filled...guys tell farmers "I got 3 last night" when they didn't even go....

Folks that have beaver problems pay for removal to trappers, I don't see how a problem deer herd should be treated any different.

I have had wheat rejected because of goose feces, allowed in unlimited hunting and took care of it. Any flock that comes in now gets run off quick.

Nuisance permits are useless unless all landowners in the area have and use them. One here and one there isn't enough.

Thing is farmers aren't the only ones suffering due to the deer. Anyone who has a woodlot suffers due to poor to no regeneration of certain trees (oaks for example), anyone who drives a car suffers in higher Ins. So we all suffer. Why should just one group pay for it?

I have too many deer on my land. Hard to reduce the herd if I can't shoot them any time I see one. If I have to wait for season and then only shoot as many as allowed it makes no difference. I can't get a nuisance permit. Only Farmers that have crop damage can.
About 1/2 the land is farm around here.


No way the deer herd is going to get reduced until anyone and everyone who wants to shoot a deer any time he wants can. I'll bet if we did that there still won't be enough deer removed. I don't think there are enough hunters anymore.

So is the problem that farmers wont let people hunt on the farm land?

This who problem seems foreign to me as it seems like there's more hunters than deer.

A year ago we had a family man lose his life do to a deer hit by the car in front of him coming through his windshield! This was as they were entering town at a 40 mile per hour limit. He was on his way to work. I kill them all! Yummy.

You all need some Amish and Mennonite clans to move in. Deer overpopulation solved

I just sustained front end damage to my pick-up last Saturday hitting a deer. it will cost me my $1000 deductible and increased insurance rates. I say again....I hate deer!

So is the problem that farmers wont let people hunt on the farm land?

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I don't see it as much as the farmers not allowing hunting , the do all have a cousin or family member that is supposedly hunting it who takes 2 deer a year off hundreds of acers.
and more and more farmers are taking leases to hunters so then you might have just a couple people hunting it and waiting for big racks.



the bigger issue I see here is everyone is dividing up land into 10s and 20s and saying not in my backyard. it creates a deer sanctuary when a 400 acre parcel that used to get hunted turns in to 40 10 acre parcels and they put in good feed for them.

well that and the almost extinct deer drive. everyone sits in a tree now

That’s starting to trend here. I know of a few places where the leases and hunting are being done away with. Keep in mind that lots of areas here are at that point of deer population being substantially out of whack. And in some cases the crops are fairly high value such as produce/fruit. But I’ve even seen it happening in bigger row crop organizations that are being operated as a pure business operation. Trend had been that hunting leases generated decent income. Maybe a few deer died in process and that was win. Other cases the hunters shot very few deer and there wasn’t much crop damage mitigation but the payment maybe still offset that. Now seeing farm managers deciding the lease model isn’t viable

Come plant your wheat here. I bet ive seen 30 deer in the past year here.

Good grief, I saw 30 deer last night on the ride home from town.

Pretty much like Greencounty posted.

Smaller chunks, not worth gun hunting except for opening day. After opening day the deer are pretty much in the non-hunting areas.
Odds are really against you. Often I see herds of deer out in the off limits areas during gun season in the middle of the day.

Lots of guys go north and hunt in groups. Don't pay to have 1/2 dozen guys in a 40 acre or smaller chunk.

Lots of deer shot in the public land if you look at it by deer/acre. Tons more private land tho, so more deer in just raw numbers shot there.
More does shot than bucks.

Chronic wasting or blue tongue or whatever it’s called. Get you some of that and you wont have deer. Theyre few and far between anymore. Some spots around here have been mostly void of deer for years. Whatever is left get to try to survive the growing population of yotes (or so it seems at least)

Slow down & keep your hands up on the wheel. But most of all pay attention to the road, thank God you weren't hurt.

I try n take responsibility for my own actions, anytime I've hit any critter with my vehicle it's not always the critters fault.

This is a dream for me.

No subsides in getting a crop damage permit in WI. You just get to shoot so many deer. Anyone that get a crop damage permit has to allow hunters. 2 hunters/40 acres huntable land.
there is a current list on line that hunters can look up. Provides phone number of owner to call. Its another option for hunters.