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Re: Supreme Court [Re: corky] #8427532
06/28/25 02:54 PM
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We will see what happens when a president takes office and put out an executive order banning guns. Then what? It only takes one crazy fool to make things very interesting. [/quote]
That's clearly a constitutional violation and would fall into the courts purview. [/quote]

So is birthright citizenship. 14th amendment. And look at that controversy in the courts. Our rights are always getting walked on.

Re: Supreme Court [Re: corky] #8427603
06/28/25 06:52 PM
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I hope Soros is having a really wonerful meltdown. the only thing better would be for me to be the one to evacuate his cranium. along with all of his concubines.......

Re: Supreme Court [Re: Hornytoad1] #8427613
06/28/25 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hornytoad1
Originally Posted by Dirt
I agree with the ruling, but this opens the door to abusing individual rights. I always remember the strategy of McCain/ Feingold.


We will see what happens when a president takes office and put out an executive order banning guns. Then what? It only takes one crazy fool to make things very interesting.


Just like banning bump stocks. You won't be able to buy a gun in certain districts until the Supremes rule on it. So people in certain areas will have their rights violated until this works it's way to the Supreme court. This is the problem IMHO with trying to deal with nationwide policy one district at a time. However, it will feed a lot of lawyers.

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Re: Supreme Court [Re: Sheepdog1] #8427642
06/28/25 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sheepdog1
I hope Soros is having a really wonerful meltdown. the only thing better would be for me to be the one to evacuate his cranium. along with all of his concubines.......


So much peace and love

Re: Supreme Court [Re: corky] #8427651
06/28/25 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Hornytoad1


We will see what happens when a president takes office and put out an executive order banning guns. Then what? It only takes one crazy fool to make things very interesting.


Just like banning bump stocks. You won't be able to buy a gun in certain districts until the Supremes rule on it. So people in certain areas will have their rights violated until this works it's way to the Supreme court. This is the problem IMHO with trying to deal with nationwide policy one district at a time. However, it will feed a lot of lawyers.


Maybe, but it creates a disparity that demands resolution that the Supremes can't just ignore. The other option is one district violating the rights of all and that can be ignored since all are getting screwed equally.


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Re: Supreme Court [Re: corky] #8427656
06/28/25 08:29 PM
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The courts are not determining the outcome. The courts are stopping an action, not producing an action. They are not screwing anybody that is not already being screwed.


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Re: Supreme Court [Re: NWOTrapper] #8427662
06/28/25 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NWOTrapper
Originally Posted by Sheepdog1
I hope Soros is having a really wonerful meltdown. the only thing better would be for me to be the one to evacuate his cranium. along with all of his concubines.......


So much peace and love


Too nice for that person.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Supreme Court [Re: hippie] #8427666
06/28/25 08:38 PM
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Oh I didn’t realize talking about murdering people was allowed as long as it’s people you don’t like. My bad

Re: Supreme Court [Re: corky] #8427670
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Short rope and a tall tree would be more fitting....

Re: Supreme Court [Re: corky] #8427675
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So the law of the land according to a former supreme court is that the Constitution says: The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside"
, which has been interpreted to grant birthright citizenship to most individuals born in the U.S.

President takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.

Then he E.O.s this right gone. confused

How do you deal with this? I don't know?


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Re: Supreme Court [Re: corky] #8427681
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Dirt, I think it's really going to take a Convention of States to correct the error in thinking when this Amendment was ratified. I still would like to see the 17th removed from the Constitution.

Re: Supreme Court [Re: NWOTrapper] #8427712
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Originally Posted by NWOTrapper
Oh I didn’t realize talking about murdering people was allowed as long as it’s people you don’t like. My bad

He deserves it. The world would be a better place.

Re: Supreme Court [Re: Dirt] #8427791
06/29/25 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
So the law of the land according to a former supreme court is that the Constitution says: The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside"
, which has been interpreted to grant birthright citizenship to most individuals born in the U.S.

President takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.

Then he E.O.s this right gone. confused

How do you deal with this? I don't know?



Wasn't this debated by congress that it was not for people coming in to the country but for slaves children?

Re: Supreme Court [Re: corky] #8427955
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Maybe? The Supreme court has made a ruling. It is the law. People can challenge the law. I'm not sure a President can violate the law to challenge it?


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Re: Supreme Court [Re: Dirt] #8427957
06/29/25 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
So the law of the land according to a former supreme court is that the Constitution says: The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside"
, which has been interpreted to grant birthright citizenship to most individuals born in the U.S.

President takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.

Then he E.O.s this right gone. confused

How do you deal with this? I don't know?


every Representative and Senator swears a similar Oath to the Constitution...

Re: Supreme Court [Re: Dirt] #8428007
06/29/25 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Maybe? The Supreme court has made a ruling. It is the law. People can challenge the law. I'm not sure a President can violate the law to challenge it?


"John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it" President Andrew Jackson

And Jackson most certainly did violate it. Marshall ruled the the Cherokee most certainly had the right to sue and keep their land, Jackson sent them to Oklahoma anyway.

SCOTUS, by design has ZERO enforcement power. Instead they rely solely upon the coequal branches either complying or not with recourse to impeachment as the corrective measure.


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Re: Supreme Court [Re: corky] #8428009
06/29/25 03:02 PM
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SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF

There's the fine print everyone is conviently ignoring. These illegals are citizens of other sovereign nations subject to the laws of those nations. Heck, that Mexican jewess cartel mouthpiece has said as much when she speaks of her citizens in our country.


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Re: Supreme Court [Re: corky] #8428011
06/29/25 03:11 PM
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Nobody is ignoring that. They are in the U.S. and subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. This has been decided by a former Supreme court.

The court cannot impeach Presidents. Congress can, but won't while the President's party is in charge.


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Re: Supreme Court [Re: corky] #8428014
06/29/25 03:22 PM
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Define jurisdiction, please?

Under the power of local law? If so then any visitor could argue for citizenship or you might lose your's when visiting a foreign country.

I would opine under the naturalized jurisdiction as in born to a citizen as one might think of a Frenchman being French if born to French parents as a citizen of France as that is the closest thing we have as Americans to an ethnicity of our own.


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Re: Supreme Court [Re: corky] #8428018
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BTW, you as a citizen are still subject to US legal jurisdiction no matter where you may be on the globe. Same for these illegals they are subject to the laws of their country of origin.

The grey area would be stateless persons as we saw at the end of WW2 but were not talking about that.


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