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BBB in trouble #8427579
06/28/25 05:42 PM
06/28/25 05:42 PM
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Did anyone really think that the BBB would make it across the line with the 2A parts intact?

Yeah, me too, lol.

We really need to reform just how we do legislation. This omnibus/reconcilation crap of pile on the brib.. pork to pass a kick the can down the road nonsense ain't working.


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Re: BBB in trouble [Re: warrior] #8427580
06/28/25 05:44 PM
06/28/25 05:44 PM
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no im not.


thune is spineless and just needs to tell the parliamentarian to kick rocks

Re: BBB in trouble [Re: warrior] #8427582
06/28/25 05:46 PM
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I certainly wanted it to make it through. Didn’t have any hope of it, though.

Re: BBB in trouble [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8427669
06/28/25 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
no im not.


thune is spineless and just needs to tell the parliamentarian to kick rocks

I don't think he is spineless I just think he is part of the swamp. Probably having dinner and drinks with Schumer this evening.

Re: BBB in trouble [Re: warrior] #8427907
06/29/25 09:56 AM
06/29/25 09:56 AM
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Welp, done deal.

We got played! Again.


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Re: BBB in trouble [Re: warrior] #8427931
06/29/25 11:16 AM
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Last I saw they had put in the elimination of the 200 tax on suppressors, sbr and sbs. Will still need approval and still be i NFA regulated. We will see if that stays.

If it stays it may lay the ground work tor removal from the NFA. The Nfa is only legal because it's a tax same as social security. But not holding my breath

Re: BBB in trouble [Re: warrior] #8427945
06/29/25 12:13 PM
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Don't think you will ever see current regulated items come off the NFA registry....Don't feel real warm & fuzzy about having multiple items in a trust going forward either.


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Re: BBB in trouble [Re: Providence Farm] #8428005
06/29/25 02:43 PM
06/29/25 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Last I saw they had put in the elimination of the 200 tax on suppressors, sbr and sbs. Will still need approval and still be i NFA regulated. We will see if that stays.

If it stays it may lay the ground work tor removal from the NFA. The Nfa is only legal because it's a tax same as social security. But not holding my breath


Both the SHORT act and Hearing Protection Act got pulled by the unelected democrat appointed parlimentarian using the BYRD rule as her excuse. Byrd Rule essentially says that only tax related items can be included in a tax reconciliation bill. The rest of the BBB got advanced for a floor vote, after tossing in some pork for the few GOP holdouts of course. LOOKING AT YOU JOSH HAWLEY, R MO. And of course both parts were tax related as they only removed the taxes on SBRs and suppressors and did not remove them from the NFA, they would be treated the same as any other NFA FIREARM. IE, not destructive devices but firearms on a 2274 not the class whatever rigamarole.

If it passes the Senate floor vote, and it probably will, it goes back to the House for a vote then on to the president. Theoretically, they can be added back in as an amendment before the floor vote but it won't happen as that most likely will lose a few GOP holdouts like Murkowski and Collins that only came onboard due to extra pork just for them.

The more I think on this the more I wonder if this wasn't the plan all along. It most certainly got a whole bunch of us riging the phones to pass a bill chock full of garbage on the chance of getting what should already be our's by right.
They knew full well that they had a last minute backstop to keep it from going through.

We got played!


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Re: BBB in trouble [Re: warrior] #8428034
06/29/25 04:04 PM
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The BBB is projected to add an extra 4.5 trillion to the deficit.

When is the madness going to stop


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: BBB in trouble [Re: Steven 49er] #8428039
06/29/25 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
The BBB is projected to add an extra 4.5 trillion to the deficit.

When is the madness going to stop

The people are the problem.

We need more Thomas msssies and rand psuld instead of primaries against them. Incumbency rate is almost 100% now only time someone loses their seat is through redistricting.

Re: BBB in trouble [Re: Steven 49er] #8428043
06/29/25 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
The BBB is projected to add an extra 4.5 trillion to the deficit.

When is the madness going to stop


The govt is a reflection of the people. Personal finances are also widely out of control. Can't expect govt to be responsible when the people electing them are not.

Re: BBB in trouble [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8428047
06/29/25 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
The BBB is projected to add an extra 4.5 trillion to the deficit.

When is the madness going to stop


The govt is a reflection of the people. Personal finances are also widely out of control. Can't expect govt to be responsible when the people electing them are not.

Problem is we're past the danger point where people think that the govl can fix their personal finances.

Re: BBB in trouble [Re: warrior] #8428058
06/29/25 04:51 PM
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I feel like this meme is appropriate here.....


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Re: BBB in trouble [Re: Steven 49er] #8428152
06/29/25 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
The BBB is projected to add an extra 4.5 trillion to the deficit.

When is the madness going to stop

It's not going to stop. Just gonna get worse.

Re: BBB in trouble [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8428177
06/29/25 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
The BBB is projected to add an extra 4.5 trillion to the deficit.

When is the madness going to stop


The govt is a reflection of the people. Personal finances are also widely out of control. Can't expect govt to be responsible when the people electing them are not.


Or is it vice versa. They are supposed to be the adults in the room and lead by example

I'm over it. Time to buy more tangible assets.


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Re: BBB in trouble [Re: warrior] #8428182
06/29/25 09:26 PM
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DOGE will save us. smile


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Re: BBB in trouble [Re: loosegoose] #8428192
06/29/25 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
I feel like this meme is appropriate here.....


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The problem with your meme is that the Parliamentarian axed it and the swamp critter Thune wouldn't overrule it, which democrats have done before. The blame is with the Senate republicans not the President.

Re: BBB in trouble [Re: warrior] #8428281
06/30/25 12:18 AM
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The Swamp does not need to be drained; it needs to be burned to the ground. I'm sick of it.
Again, ya'll are thinking that we have a choice; that is a bad calculation.


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Re: BBB in trouble [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8428282
06/30/25 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
The BBB is projected to add an extra 4.5 trillion to the deficit.

When is the madness going to stop

The people are the problem.

We need more Thomas msssies and rand psuld instead of primaries against them. Incumbency rate is almost 100% now only time someone loses their seat is through redistricting.


Thomas Massie for POTUS!! He's the only one in Congress far as I can tell that actually cares about our Country and our children's future.


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Re: BBB in trouble [Re: warrior] #8428286
06/30/25 12:44 AM
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Its easy for guys like Massey to climb a horse and claim this or that, until they have the entire country under them.

This bill does actually cut spending, the deficit comes from the tax cuts that are also included.

https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/big-beautiful-bill-house-gop-tax-plan/

This is a couple weeks old, all numbers are just a guess until they're done. This shows the expected cuts to spending happen daily.and deficit of revenue due to tax cuts, subject to any changes that are occurring daily.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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