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Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8427877
06/29/25 08:50 AM
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Not being from out west I have a question? Can you use foothold traps on federal(public) land in WA, OR, CA, CO, NM? Work with someone who is from Washington and he claimed that a big chunk of (public) ground is gated limiting access to the general public, with fees for just about everything.

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8427878
06/29/25 08:51 AM
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Just seen this not verified yet.

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Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
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06/29/25 10:09 AM
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Ever now and again, like a blind squirrel finding a nut, the good guys win!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8427913
06/29/25 10:31 AM
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Must be true I see FTA made a positive statement about it being dropped.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: Catch22] #8427942
06/29/25 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Ever now and again, like a blind squirrel finding a nut, the good guys win!



Victory: Sen. Lee Surrenders on Plan to Sell Off America’s Public Lands

WASHINGTON— After massive outrage, Sen. Mike Lee announced late today that he is pulling his provision for a huge sell-off of America's public lands from the Republican megabill.

“Good riddance to the biggest attack on public lands in history,” said Brett Hartl, government affairs director at the Center for Biological Diversity. “Selling off public lands remains overwhelmingly out of step with the values of nearly all Americans and it should never have even been considered. This is a huge victory for the many millions of people across this country who love our public lands and want vibrant wildlife populations and a healthy environment.”

The Center ran full-page ads in the Denver Post and Salt Lake Tribune blasting Lee’s measure, which initially aimed to sell off roughly 3 million acres of public lands in 11 Western states.

The Center for Biological Diversity has been actively involved in blocking wolf hunts and advocating for wolf protections, particularly in states like Idaho and Montana, where aggressive wolf-killing laws have been enacted. In 2021, the organization, along with other conservation groups, filed a notice of intent to sue the state of Idaho over its new wolf-hunting laws, which posed a serious risk to federally protected species like lynxes and grizzly bears.
The Center has also taken legal action to challenge state efforts to reduce wolf protections, such as in Washington, where it successfully blocked attempts by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife to kill wolves in response to conflicts with livestock.

The Center for Biological Diversity has been actively involved in protecting the Canada lynx and the Iberian lynx, both of which are endangered species. The organization has launched several lawsuits and legal actions to prevent trapping and other threats to these species. For example, the Center has sued the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources for permitting trapping that harms Canada lynx, which are protected under the Endangered Species Act.

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Who is John Galt?
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: Dirt] #8427943
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Catch22
Ever now and again, like a blind squirrel finding a nut, the good guys win!



Victory: Sen. Lee Surrenders on Plan to Sell Off America’s Public Lands

WASHINGTON— After massive outrage, Sen. Mike Lee announced late today that he is pulling his provision for a huge sell-off of America's public lands from the Republican megabill.

“Good riddance to the biggest attack on public lands in history,” said Brett Hartl, government affairs director at the Center for Biological Diversity. “Selling off public lands remains overwhelmingly out of step with the values of nearly all Americans and it should never have even been considered. This is a huge victory for the many millions of people across this country who love our public lands and want vibrant wildlife populations and a healthy environment.”

The Center ran full-page ads in the Denver Post and Salt Lake Tribune blasting Lee’s measure, which initially aimed to sell off roughly 3 million acres of public lands in 11 Western states.

The Center for Biological Diversity has been actively involved in blocking wolf hunts and advocating for wolf protections, particularly in states like Idaho and Montana, where aggressive wolf-killing laws have been enacted. In 2021, the organization, along with other conservation groups, filed a notice of intent to sue the state of Idaho over its new wolf-hunting laws, which posed a serious risk to federally protected species like lynxes and grizzly bears.
The Center has also taken legal action to challenge state efforts to reduce wolf protections, such as in Washington, where it successfully blocked attempts by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife to kill wolves in response to conflicts with livestock.

Outdoorsmen sure pick some strange bedfellows.

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8427969
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J Staton, I’ve never been to Arkansas so I didn’t know it’s a perfect world

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8427973
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Lol J! I really don't think anyone "picked" a strange bedfellow. Dirt could have shared articles from pro hunting, trapping etc, sources but chose to equate the WIN as, if you support the failure of Lee's provision, that equals tree hugger and that's not the case. Personally, IDC if obummer, hillary and biden teamed up to stop it as long as we get to keep our public land to hunt, trap, fish, camp and hike on.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8428004
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The federal government owns approximately 1.2% of Ohio's total land area, which equates to around 305,502 acres out of 26.2 million acres.
This places Ohio among the states with the least amount of federal land ownership. smile


Who is John Galt?
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8428085
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Making it even more important that a sell-off shouldn’t occur. I guess it’s easy to not care when you have unlimited access, eh Dirt?

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: Dirt] #8428098
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Originally Posted by Dirt
The federal government owns approximately 1.2% of Ohio's total land area, which equates to around 305,502 acres out of 26.2 million acres.
This places Ohio among the states with the least amount of federal land ownership. smile


You are on a strange hill


There i said it....
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: Leroy Bob] #8428166
06/29/25 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Making it even more important that a sell-off shouldn’t occur. I guess it’s easy to not care when you have unlimited access, eh Dirt?


I live next to a National Park.


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Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: Dirt] #8428223
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Making it even more important that a sell-off shouldn’t occur. I guess it’s easy to not care when you have unlimited access, eh Dirt?


I live next to a National Park.


And in some areas, Alaska residents can hunt and trap in National Parks. You can fish all of them. Does it upset you that you can’t hunt some of the National parks?

The state of Alaska is 60+% federal ownership and almost 15% state ownership, meaning the entire state is over 75% public land. It’s such an easy argument for you to make that you don’t care if federal land is sold because you have it EVERYWHERE.

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8428243
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I didn't argue," I don't care." I said sell it in places that have lots of it. Especially, if it is more valuable and productive as private property. I'm just like my Senators and my former Congressman.


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Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: J Staton] #8428255
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No types of traps (not even cage traps except for limited depredation purposes) are permitted on public land in New Mexico to take furbearers. Current ongoing lawsuit by the New Mexico Trappers Association to challenge the law. As I pointed out during the debate on the law that eliminated public land trapping all ant-trap legislation affecting federal public lands has been passed at the State level not the Federal level. Real plus for the radical states' rights folks.

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: Dirt] #8428434
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Originally Posted by Dirt
I didn't argue," I don't care." I said sell it in places that have lots of it. Especially, if it is more valuable and productive as private property. I'm just like my Senators and my former Congressman.


Makes too much sense


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: hippie] #8428441
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Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by Dirt
I didn't argue," I don't care." I said sell it in places that have lots of it. Especially, if it is more valuable and productive as private property. I'm just like my Senators and my former Congressman.


Makes too much sense


I don’t totally disagree. But who/what determines if it’s more productive as private land? And has that determination been made by Mike Lee?

Like I’ve stated, there’s already a process in place for land sales and swaps. Not for mega sell-offs that open the door to full-scale federal land sales.

I sure as heck wouldn’t trust the state of Alaska to manage private lands. They’ll do anything for a dollar, to the detriment of habitat, access, and conservation.

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Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8428454
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And there is a process that was created with this but nobody wants to read it. Sounds like Lee will be bringing it back and written more clearly for some of you to understand. Also taking NF land off the table

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Do you have a link to his process and reasoning? I’m sure he was super thorough analyzing 1.2 million acres….

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8428477
06/30/25 12:48 PM
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The text that was in the bill I posted a few pages back in the thread. I'll post the new stuff when the panicans get scam emails from unoutdoor groups sgsin

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