No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432244
07/07/25 06:58 PM
07/07/25 06:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
East of the Mason-Dixon Line
DelawareRob Offline
trapper
DelawareRob  Offline
trapper

Joined: Oct 2013
East of the Mason-Dixon Line
I trap for a fella, who also worked at a feed store. He got me a mess of land. Like others have said, go hang out at the feed store and talk to a person there as the word of mouth will get you into something. Farmer complains about something and the store person says… hey, I know a guy who might be able to help.

If you feel like hanging around the old man meetings at the local restaurant, that’s a good start also. Just gotta find where the land owners hang out.


Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!

Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432248
07/07/25 07:01 PM
07/07/25 07:01 PM
Joined: Sep 2013
Green County Wisconsin
G
GREENCOUNTYPETE Offline
trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Sep 2013
Green County Wisconsin
you may try an ad on the message board at the farm store or feed mill.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432256
07/07/25 07:16 PM
07/07/25 07:16 PM
Joined: May 2025
kansas
D
D.U.B. Offline
trapper
D.U.B.  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: May 2025
kansas
Smear some dirt on you leave the fancy truck at home get some key striped bibs hat and boots and start asking around who needs farm hand work on the weekends and evenings. Fence work help with cattle ect. Offer a hand in labor and the doors will start opening. Start going to the coffee shop stir the pot they will cold shoulder for a bit but hang in there and start the conversations. Buy a few breakfast that goes along ways just sit and listen who is calving putting up hay working ground getting ready to harvest.

Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: Seldom] #8432273
07/07/25 07:38 PM
07/07/25 07:38 PM
Joined: Jul 2024
IL
NorthwesternYote Offline OP
trapper
NorthwesternYote  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Jul 2024
IL
Originally Posted by Seldom
Did you tell them that ONLYm YOU would be on their property or did you leave an impression that they could expect you AND a convoy of want-to sees following or riding with you! They’ll either say yes or no and if they say no, end of story, thank them for their time and beat feet! You do understand that their comment about “somebody else trapping” is a blow-off right??

I show them this permission slip, of which I carry several (sadly) unused copies with my clipboard:

https://dnr.illinois.gov/content/dam/soi/en/web/dnr/hunting/documents/permissioncard.pdf

Which explicitly lists who (just me) has permission to trap on the land and explicitly lists the duration (trapping season). I don't leave any ambiguity. I always try to be up-front and honest.

Of course I know that comment is a blow-off, but what can I do about it? I can call them on it, but I don't think that would result in permission. That comment is their way of saying no, and no means no.

Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432278
07/07/25 07:44 PM
07/07/25 07:44 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Coldspring Texas
Savell Offline
"Wilbur"
Savell  Offline
"Wilbur"

Joined: Dec 2006
Coldspring Texas
… sounds like you’re doing your best and I wish you luck

… but you ain’t playing that weird music you post in here when you roll up now are you by chance? Lol


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: Savell] #8432283
07/07/25 07:51 PM
07/07/25 07:51 PM
Joined: Jul 2024
IL
NorthwesternYote Offline OP
trapper
NorthwesternYote  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Jul 2024
IL
Originally Posted by Savell
… sounds like you’re doing your best and I wish you luck

… but you ain’t playing that weird music you post in here when you roll up now are you by chance? Lol

LOL, you caught me, Savell. That must be it.

Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432286
07/07/25 07:53 PM
07/07/25 07:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Coldspring Texas
Savell Offline
"Wilbur"
Savell  Offline
"Wilbur"

Joined: Dec 2006
Coldspring Texas
… download yourself some Waylon Jennings and start chewing tobacco


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432288
07/07/25 07:55 PM
07/07/25 07:55 PM
Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by Seldom
Did you tell them that ONLYm YOU would be on their property or did you leave an impression that they could expect you AND a convoy of want-to sees following or riding with you! They’ll either say yes or no and if they say no, end of story, thank them for their time and beat feet! You do understand that their comment about “somebody else trapping” is a blow-off right??

I show them this permission slip, of which I carry several (sadly) unused copies with my clipboard:

https://dnr.illinois.gov/content/dam/soi/en/web/dnr/hunting/documents/permissioncard.pdf

Which explicitly lists who (just me) has permission to trap on the land and explicitly lists the duration (trapping season). I don't leave any ambiguity. I always try to be up-front and honest.

Of course I know that comment is a blow-off, but what can I do about it? I can call them on it, but I don't think that would result in permission. That comment is their way of saying no, and no means no.


Don't show up with a clipboard. They'll think you're doing a survey, getting signatures for a petition or trying to sell something. That will make them dislike you before you even open your mouth.

Keith

Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432291
07/07/25 07:58 PM
07/07/25 07:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2020
Wisconsin
Scott__aR Offline
trapper
Scott__aR  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2020
Wisconsin
If you're not from the farming community, breaking in is really tough in our area. So unless you own land in the area, are dating or marrying into a family ... having no personal contact isn't going to work unless landowners already have a problem they can't handle themselves. So unless you're in the business of providing established ADC services, as a fur trapper it can be a tough haul. Is that card youre handing out looking like a business? Ads in the local paper ... small success rate, I would guess.

So yes, getting to know them and interacting at the morning meeting place, the feed mill and/or the stock yard/sales barn are the best opportunities when farmers have time and are more relaxed. But it's not a one and done or once a year thing; relationships need to be cultivated over time, trust and respect earned.

Understand, YOU ARE NOT OFFERING A SERVICE as a fur trapper! They are affording you a privilege allowing you on their land! Ask yourself what can you do to prove to them that you are someone they can trust. Express an honest interest to understand what it is that they do. When I moved into the rural community, I was a city slicker. I went out of my way to meet my neighbors, asking if I could spend some time to gain some knowledge and experience, offered to help with milking (dairy area), loading hay into the barns, scraping calf stalls and cleaning the barn/parlor after I didn't ask for pay; but I did prove I wasn't afraid to put in the work to interact with them on their level. After I established a few relationships, generated a few friends in the community, demonstrated that I had their same values, as trapping season approved that's when I asked for the opportunity to trap and educate some farmers as to the tools of the trade and how their property and livestock would be respected and protected.

Realize, all farmers will solve their problem on their own, one way or another. If there is hunting, you probably won't be able to get on the property to trap till after season. Respect whatever limitation/s ( objections ) the owners offer up. It ultimately, how can you have the least impact on their lives and yet solve a inconvenience they may be experiencing know or unknown.

They have trappers already trapping for them; politely ask who they may be. Perhaps you can shadow one or two while they trap. Gaining the respect and goodwill of local trappers will go a long way to opening sticky doors with a casually dropped name or two.

In the sales business, going and pounding on doors is called making "cold calls"; it's not a high percentage game. Far better to develope networks of connected people which can give a positive reference, as you will be talked about in those casual meeting places referenced above, anyway.

Not telling you what to do or how to do it, just been my experience. Of course what works for one doesn't mean it works for everyone in every circumstance.


Megapredator ... top of the food chain!
Member of WTA
Member of U.P. Trappers
Member of NTA
Member of FTA
Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432294
07/07/25 08:00 PM
07/07/25 08:00 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Midland, MI.
Seldom Offline
trapper
Seldom  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2007
Midland, MI.
Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by Seldom
Did you tell them that ONLYm YOU would be on their property or did you leave an impression that they could expect you AND a convoy of want-to sees following or riding with you! They’ll either say yes or no and if they say no, end of story, thank them for their time and beat feet! You do understand that their comment about “somebody else trapping” is a blow-off right??

I show them this permission slip, of which I carry several (sadly) unused copies with my clipboard:

https://dnr.illinois.gov/content/dam/soi/en/web/dnr/hunting/documents/permissioncard.pdf

Which explicitly lists who (just me) has permission to trap on the land and explicitly lists the duration (trapping season). I don't leave any ambiguity. I always try to be up-front and honest.

Of course I know that comment is a blow-off, but what can I do about it? I can call them on it, but I don't think that would result in permission. That comment is their way of saying no, and no means no.
Does your State require written permission, Michigan did decades ago but stopped requiring it. If your State does require written permission that is your 1st stumbling block right there. Property owners HATE signing chit! If your written permission slips are your idea, chit-can them asap and maybe your no’s will lessen!

NEVER -EVER challenge a property owner!


"A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!"
Youtube Channel- SeldomFales
Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432297
07/07/25 08:04 PM
07/07/25 08:04 PM
Joined: Nov 2023
West central Missouri
R
Raghorn67 Offline
trapper
Raghorn67  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Nov 2023
West central Missouri
A bag of crappie fillets never hurts, depending on quality and quantity of the land I'm interested in gaining access to.

Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432385
07/07/25 09:40 PM
07/07/25 09:40 PM
Joined: Feb 2020
MT
S
Slick Pan Offline
trapper
Slick Pan  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Feb 2020
MT
Several different idea.Public land.What about your local trapping organization? Fur buyers or a fur sale to meet other trappers.I have used classified ads many years ago and it worked well.But I was experienced.Land owners want you to be able accomplish whatever they need done.Pretty rare for a novice trapper to get permission.Meet an older trapper and offer to follow along to help.NOT to trap.If you can get a trapper to take you under their wing you will not only learn but at some point you might be surprised.

Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: Savell] #8432387
07/07/25 09:43 PM
07/07/25 09:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
MN
160user Offline
trapper
160user  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
MN
Originally Posted by Savell
…. They poison the coons around here …. They bring me in as a coyote mercenary lol



The Parvo Kid.............


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432394
07/07/25 09:49 PM
07/07/25 09:49 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
ohio
Ohio Wolverine Offline
trapper
Ohio Wolverine  Offline
trapper

Joined: Apr 2007
ohio
Years ago, I would buy topo maps of the areas around me.
Get plat books from the county, and phone books.
Cross reference ponds and lakes on the topo maps with the plat book.
The names of the owners were in the plat books.
Then check their names in the phonebook along with their address.
Call and ask about trapping or hunting.
It also helped if I knew a little history about the property , such as who owned it before hand.


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: 160user] #8432396
07/07/25 09:50 PM
07/07/25 09:50 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Coldspring Texas
Savell Offline
"Wilbur"
Savell  Offline
"Wilbur"

Joined: Dec 2006
Coldspring Texas
Originally Posted by 160user
Originally Posted by Savell
…. They poison the coons around here …. They bring me in as a coyote mercenary lol



The Parvo Kid.............


…. Thanks Jbyrd for the alias lol

[Linked Image]


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432416
07/07/25 10:19 PM
07/07/25 10:19 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
East of the Mason-Dixon Line
DelawareRob Offline
trapper
DelawareRob  Offline
trapper

Joined: Oct 2013
East of the Mason-Dixon Line
Get rid of Wilbur and make his tag “The Parvo Kid”

Lol


Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!

Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432430
07/07/25 10:49 PM
07/07/25 10:49 PM
Joined: Oct 2024
Kansas
S
someGuyInKansas Offline
trapper
someGuyInKansas  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Oct 2024
Kansas
You could drop by your local NRCS office or state forestery office. Ask if they know any landowners with problems. If these agents happen to be receptive, they might get you some introductions.

An addition to the local restaraunt idea - be super nice to the waitress and see if she knows anyone with critter problems.

Do any small town stores have a bulletin board by door for posting things? make a little flyer with your phone number repeatedly listed on the bottom for people to tear off. Then tear off half the phone numbers so it looks like you're popular.

Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: DelawareRob] #8432482
07/08/25 01:19 AM
07/08/25 01:19 AM
Joined: May 2011
Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30 Offline
trapper
yotetrapper30  Offline
trapper

Joined: May 2011
Oakland, MS
Originally Posted by DelawareRob
Get rid of Wilbur and make his tag “The Parvo Kid”

Lol


Oh I dunno. Wilbur is pretty fitting too....

[Linked Image]


Proudly banned from the NTA.

Bother me tomorrow. Today I'll buy no sorrows.
Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432488
07/08/25 03:09 AM
07/08/25 03:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Alaska and Washington State
W
waggler Offline
trapper
waggler  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2008
Alaska and Washington State
Ya gotta have thick skin in this business.


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: Quest for permissions: Taking out a classified ad? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8432500
07/08/25 05:32 AM
07/08/25 05:32 AM
Joined: Apr 2020
Illinois Kentucky Line
Massac Offline
trapper
Massac  Offline
trapper

Joined: Apr 2020
Illinois Kentucky Line
If you lived on my end of the state I could definitely hook you up. No one traps down here and farmers are all pretty easy going.

Wissmiss mentioned going to a feed store and putting up a flyer on a bulletin board. Do this. Go to a local mom and pop feed store if you have any. Or a Rural King, Farm and Fleet, Norby's, or whatever they got upstate. Farmers want to see results and know that you are doing them a favor. Next thing you know their neighbors are trying to get a hold of you to get you to trap their places.

Should you get permission, my number one advice is: make it look like you were never even there. Meaning leave no trace. No ruts, trash, etc.

The thing with places that are leased out to deer hunters is a lot of those agreements on paper stipulate that no one else is to use that land other than the owner and the leasee. There's a guy down here that won't even allow a person to look for arrowheads in his fields in the summertime with the way that his lease is worded with the deer hunters, because it would be breaking the agreement.

Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread