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Re: Old Religions [Re: hippie] #8432889
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Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8432892
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I knew Texas had Mexcans but I didn't figure there were any Vikings in them parts.

Re: Old Religions [Re: J Staton] #8432896
07/08/25 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by J Staton
I knew Texas had Mexcans but I didn't figure there were any Vikings in them parts.


… even Irish had religion prior to Christianity

.. Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism as is Islam

… just curious why my ancestors abandoned their own religions for a foreign one is all


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8432901
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… next question would be … are my ancestors prior to exposure burning for eternity?


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Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8432903
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There is "Christianity", and there is following Jesus Christ. I think many of you are confusing the two.


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Re: Old Religions [Re: waggler] #8432904
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Originally Posted by waggler
There is "Christianity", and there is following Jesus Christ. I think many of you are confusing the two.


… what does following Jesus mean to you Mr waggler ?


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8432907
07/08/25 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Savell
… next question would be … are my ancestors prior to exposure burning for eternity?


I think they're fine. Even you have a small chance.


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Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8432914
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Judaism come about some 600 to 700 years after ishmael was born.
But they both definitely derive from Abraham. Shemite.
That is one thing that makes me shake my head about the whole antisemitic nonsense.
Rome was already in a decline when Constantine converted to Christianity.
It's interesting because this conversion made Christianity the same thing Jesus came to condemn.
Using the Lords name in vain and making his house a den of thieves.
A church state. The reason it became so popular to the peagon religions is because they saw peace.
Atliest for a short time. Not really any different than. The many many wolves in sheep's clothing we have in powerful positions in the church and state today. I'm glad we have freedom of religion in our country.
Atliest we know where others stand. I'm glad you brought this up.


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Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8432916
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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by waggler
There is "Christianity", and there is following Jesus Christ. I think many of you are confusing the two.


… what does following Jesus mean to you Mr waggler ?

I'm interested in this also. And I'm in agreement with waggler on this.


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Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8432926
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Originally Posted by Savell
… next question would be … are my ancestors prior to exposure burning for eternity?

Acording to my understanding. No more than any other person that has ever lived. Christ is the beginning and the end. The advantage of not knowing of Chist or the law is the law was on there hearts. God is a just God and when judgment day arrives every eye shall see him.now will he know you.
That is the big question.


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Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8432939
07/09/25 02:58 AM
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Is God a just God?

I am 44 years old, and through those years have met thousands of people, talked one-on-one with hundreds... and in the end settled on just 4 people that I trust (not counting immediate family like parents).

None of them are devout Christians. Two of them believe in God...kinda... I think.... maybe. One of them may even go to church on occasion.

But all of them... are the best people, out of literal thousands that this world has to offer.

But, y'all are saying that if they don't repent of their sins and give their lives to Christ, they will perish in "hades". That the best people I have ever met are doomed to eternal hellfire because they never felt the need to call on a savior and dedicate their lives to him?

Is that just?

If heaven is filled with people like y 'all and NOT them.... I don't think I wanna go. frown


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Re: Old Religions [Re: yotetrapper30] #8432949
07/09/25 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Is God a just God?

I am 44 years old, and through those years have met thousands of people, talked one-on-one with hundreds... and in the end settled on just 4 people that I trust (not counting immediate family like parents).

None of them are devout Christians. Two of them believe in God...kinda... I think.... maybe. One of them may even go to church on occasion.

But all of them... are the best people, out of literal thousands that this world has to offer.

But, y'all are saying that if they don't repent of their sins and give their lives to Christ, they will perish in "hades". That the best people I have ever met are doomed to eternal hellfire because they never felt the need to call on a savior and dedicate their lives to him?

Is that just?

If heaven is filled with people like y 'all and NOT them.... I don't think I wanna go. frown

I truly believe in Jesus Christ. I believe He died for our sins. Now, when I stub my toe, am I going to drop an F bomb? You can bet your arse I will. I have many flaws. Too many, including myself complicate the Good Book. All you have to do is Believe in Christ, TRULY. I'ts a personal relationship between yourself and Christ. Not every other member of the denomination.
I also believe the Holy wars are still being fought. Too many WASP's in the middle east fighting for the last century over the Holy Land.


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I share much more similar values with a black Christian than a white Islamist


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Re: Old Religions [Re: yotetrapper30] #8432958
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Is God a just God?

I am 44 years old, and through those years have met thousands of people, talked one-on-one with hundreds... and in the end settled on just 4 people that I trust (not counting immediate family like parents).

None of them are devout Christians. Two of them believe in God...kinda... I think.... maybe. One of them may even go to church on occasion.

But all of them... are the best people, out of literal thousands that this world has to offer.

But, y'all are saying that if they don't repent of their sins and give their lives to Christ, they will perish in "hades". That the best people I have ever met are doomed to eternal hellfire because they never felt the need to call on a savior and dedicate their lives to him?

Is that just?

If heaven is filled with people like y 'all and NOT them.... I don't think I wanna go. frown

God created all so I would guess it would be up to Him, not us, to define what is and isn't just. I may not always agree with His idea of justice but I still believe He is right in the end.

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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by J Staton
I knew Texas had Mexcans but I didn't figure there were any Vikings in them parts.


… even Irish had religion prior to Christianity

.. Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism as is Islam

… just curious why my ancestors abandoned their own religions for a foreign one is all

Maybe they realized there is only one true God.

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Christianity was the only thing strong enough to bind tribal Europeans into a force that could repel Islam.

No one in the early 1900s would of said Christianity has made Europeans weak so what has changed from the early 1900s to now? Government, we adopted democracy and let everyone with a pulse have a say, that in my opinion is where most of the problems lie.

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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Is God a just God?

I am 44 years old, and through those years have met thousands of people, talked one-on-one with hundreds... and in the end settled on just 4 people that I trust (not counting immediate family like parents).

None of them are devout Christians. Two of them believe in God...kinda... I think.... maybe. One of them may even go to church on occasion.

But all of them... are the best people, out of literal thousands that this world has to offer.

But, y'all are saying that if they don't repent of their sins and give their lives to Christ, they will perish in "hades". That the best people I have ever met are doomed to eternal hellfire because they never felt the need to call on a savior and dedicate their lives to him?

Is that just?

If heaven is filled with people like y 'all and NOT them.... I don't think I wanna go. frown

Think you are kinda missing the point. No one gets to heaven by being good.


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Johnny Cash supposedly said that anyone who sincerely searches for truth ends up with Jesus. I see a lot of people today still settling for the old pagan religions, praying to the universe or whatever. It just seems like a poor place to settle when God is so much more. I don't need a religion that tells me I'm ok in myself because I can't find hope in my own strength. I'm just dust. What we need is salvation from ourselves.


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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Is God a just God?

I am 44 years old, and through those years have met thousands of people, talked one-on-one with hundreds... and in the end settled on just 4 people that I trust (not counting immediate family like parents).

None of them are devout Christians. Two of them believe in God...kinda... I think.... maybe. One of them may even go to church on occasion.

But all of them... are the best people, out of literal thousands that this world has to offer.

But, y'all are saying that if they don't repent of their sins and give their lives to Christ, they will perish in "hades". That the best people I have ever met are doomed to eternal hellfire because they never felt the need to call on a savior and dedicate their lives to him?

Is that just?

If heaven is filled with people like y 'all and NOT them.... I don't think I wanna go. frown

I'd say your lucky to have good friends that you trust. I would gues your friends are loving and have integrity.
If your friends are loving and trust worthy, more than likely they listen to there conscience and are not hypocrites.
God is Just. Being loving, trustworthy and a good friend is very Christ like. Many don't believe because of hypocrites. Spirituality is a complicated thing. I see the love of God in peaple that say they don't believe also.
And I see hypocrites in many that proclaim to be Christian.


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