Atheist's believe there IS NO GOD!
Agnostics think they don't know who's cranking, just glad they don't stop!

…. Sounds painful…. Guess our ancestors are experiencing it

Skinner,
I believe it's like Roman's 12:20 therefore is thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst ,give him to drink:for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head.
The coals represent purification. The enemy in the context of this passage are the the jews that have rejected Jesus in Roman's 11. Paul is taking about how they have been blinded for our sakes. And that we should feed then for edification. I believe salted with fire is this same purification God gives us when we need correction.
Kind of like when a parent brings down the hammer on a disobedient child.

…. No politics … this is a religion forum lol

…. In the U.S’s case it didn’t help at all that we lost the 2nd war of independence

Fortunately for those in Christ we have won the war against the second death.

…. What does that even mean ?

… figured you’d win it ?

My favorite quote of the thread! LOL

If Christianity is to blame its because it's made Europeans so wealthy and lazy that it enabled us to allow women to vote and lead.

Someone needs to shut off the double quote ban thing! Ugh.
Anyways I think you are correct but it's in with talk of (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) here. I don't believe in purgatory per say, but can't rule out the possibility of additional mercy after death. And this would probably make me a heretic if I mentioned it in church, lol.

Interesting you contribute the problem to women being able to vote. According to 2024 Pew research, 51% of women vote Democrat, but 46% of men also do. So, I really don't think women voting is the main issue. The main issue, IMO, is people, both men and women, who vote for their own self-interest over that of the country as a whole. Now, there is nothing wrong with supporting your own self-interest, in fact, capitalism relies on it. However, the problem is that half of the country's own self-interest revolves around how many handouts they can get from the government.

We start telling our youth that it is acceptable to rely on the government to provide for them from the time they can walk... with government funded daycare, government funded healthcare for children, then on into government funded food in schools and now even when school is not in session. Is it any wonder why, by the time a child reaches the age of 18, they are already expectant of government provided subsistence? But it doesn't end there.. then there is government funded grants so they can get a higher education, and if they need more money than the grants will cover, they will be given government funded loans which politicians will later try to forgive in order to buy more votes.

But yeah, it's definitely women voting that is the problem.....

It means Christ beat death on the Cross. And for the world eternal life is available though him.
I was responding to this is a religious forum.

…. Christ would have won the war against our second death… not lost it right

…. What am I missing here ?

You are dumb….. I can send you some money for a bible or pay for the uber to get you and your family to church….

… no flaming you west coast dope head

…. And I grew up in the church…. 3 services a week

… my kids go fairly regularly and I believe it does them good

What makes a religion old? Aren’t they all old?

…. Religions of my ancestors prior to Christianity is what I am referring to my good man

I wasn’t sure. Other than the jehovahs witnesses I’d figure they all meet the definition of old. But that makes sense. You were talking about the many religions older than Christianity.

….figured that was evident already…. You’re a little slow … but live and let live I guess lol

Oh, I know. Just trying to get my post count up so I can be like the cool kids.

Lol