Not trolling. Sincere question for discussion.

I love our country. I travel around it a lot for work. There are great small towns in most states. Some of the best I have seen are in rural PA--your state.

And, then I see what has happened to Houston. Atlanta. Denver. Heck, we have massive homeless camps in OKC. And drive by shootings.

I know Canada is not perfect. It does not have the same freedoms and the food is not great--but what can we learn from them?

Tman is always quick to give Canada opinions on what it should do. Curious how we can do better as a society.

BC, I believe you are talking about cities run by Democrats

OKC is deep red.

…. Evidently it’s environmental injustice lol

LOL

Go to Winnipeg, Montreal, Toronto and your opinion of Canada would change.

No offense to my Canadian friends but there isn't anything that I would like us to emulate. They would probably say the same thing regarding the USA. That is a good thing we should love our country.

I do think Canada does a better job exploiting her natural resources.

In a sense Canada does look utopian but as was pointed out throw 300 million more people there and opinions would change.

Our population is an issue. NM/CO rivers I fished and never saw another person 30 years ago are overrun with people now.

I would guess another 5-10 million illegal immigrants added to that number.

Our economic model requires population growth

Funny how?

Totally off topic, but the Casino video reminded me, my dad is the mobster on the right in Alto Nights, the new Robert DeNiro movie.



They filmed it in Cincinnati and my dad submitted his picture and was chosen to be an extra in the movie.

Keith

I’m assuming you mean California.

The gigantic population difference accounts for a lot. BC you mentioned fishing, I regularly fish a lake that isn’t big, maybe 60 square miles. The fishing is as good for pike and walleye as anywhere in Saskatchewan. Yet, even in July I am one of 2 or 3 boats out there on weekdays boating hundreds of fish. I’ve been to Minnesota enough times to know how sweet indeed that is.

About 8 years ago I fished a waterbody in Colorado that resembled what we’d call a slough. The amount of people fishing from the shore was insane. I did it simply to do it more than for the pleasure. Lol

Yup lack of people is the best part. Fished our lake this weekend 5 of us caught our limit of nice walleye on sat and we saw 1 other boat all day. How do u beat that?

We rarely see other boats on the lakes we fish in NW Ontario. When we get off the main lakes that is. Usually requires a smaller boat, 4 wheeler or truck you don’t care about scratching up. Lots and lots of hidden gems up there!

I appreciate the Canadians weighing in. Unfortunately, I can't do anything about us having too many people.

Since Canada is so nice we could just make it the 51st state, then the US would have nice things too.


PS For folks that don't recognize sarcasm, that was an example.

I work with guys up there who were Trump supporters. UNTIL he started that 51st state nonsense.

They despise him now. These are great dudes that love their country.

But I didn't mean to derail this. My question is about not having litter, homeless camps and graffiti. Having nice things.

I was in Ontario earlier this year, It is a third world country. They do have nice roads though.

Change your mind on needing the 20 million illegals?