Aside from volcanoes and giant meteor strikes normal climate change happens slowly enough that you would see zero change in your lifetime. I am seeing climate change in just my seven decades and that is scary.

okay.

but that doesn't mean humans are causing it.

it could be natural. Nature doesn't ascribe to our preference for gradual change. it changes in fits and starts.

and 70 years isn't even a blip in geologic times.

Fits and starts when something extraordinary happened. Other than that it takes thousands of years. Slow enough that you won't notice a change in one lifetime.

The science is very easy to understand. Greenhouse gases hold the heat in making the planet warm up a lot faster than what it should be doing. The amount of gases that we humans are responsible for is easily computed and has been shown over and over with different models that it is game changing quantities. There is a lot of money in industries that want to keep status quo.

This truly is not hard to figure out.

[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/zmfRG8-RHEI?si=0i_v5TVniSGteblq[/video]

let us know when you've identified and evaluated all of the variables that affect climate.

so far, you've mentioned one.

At the end of the day we will all believe what we want. I’ll choose NASA over Matt Durkin’s YouTube movie. I also chose to believe the many experts that claimed much of the film was falsehoods. It is ironic I feel that someone who uses YouTube etc as business is certain climate change is just a global business.

To each their own I guess.

These 'different models' to which you refer, are they computer models? The same kind of faulty or deliberately altered models used in the past to predict dire outcomes, none of which have come to fruition?

Everything revolves in cycles. In a life time there are seasons, hot and cold cycles, wet and dry cycles. There are hundred year cycles revolving inside thousand year cycles and them inside larger ones. Odd how the sun goes through cycles also. Wonder why our temperature cycles correspond with the sun spot cycles? Our politicians and the need for taxes seem to run in cycles to fit agendas also. Always looking for a reason and ways to control minds and money. Seems there are cycles in people believing in what and how much cool -ad to drink to support such cycles.

and NONE of the computer models evaluate all of the variables that could affect climate.

CO2 makes up 0.04% of the atmosphere,,,,

Humans contribute between 3-5 % of total cO2 emitted annually,,,

Make it make sense?

It doesn’t!!!!

find some scientist that does got get big taxpayer paid grants and ask them. Even if there is any facts to climate change, how many US taxpayer dollars will it take for china and others to go net zero? china puts way more greenhouse gases than the US by the power of 4

Fact and at .02% trees and plants start dying meaning the end of life on earth

Now you're getting to the heart of the matter

tell you what...when Obama sells off his beachfront properties for pennies on the dollar and Algore gives up flying in private jets, I'll consider that the issue might be serious.

until then...

The insurance companies are showing us with their coverage costs or no coverage where development won't be covered, which will make those areas only for the very wealthy. Whether we believe in climate change or not or if it is man made or a natural change we should be concerned about how or where we spend monies on infrastructure. There are many very high population areas in the world that are far more vulnerable then we are and if we want to expand markets we should be concerned about that.

Bryce

insurance companies are not immune to government dogma

Insurance companies are in big time bind due to massively inflated asset values

Caused by currency debasement

They are using the “climate crisis” as an easy out

The climates alarmists are claiming that "stronger and more frequent storms caused by climate change have resulted in unprecedented increases in monetary losses."
Truth is, there have not been more strong and frequent storms than ever. What has happened is that the few strong and infrequent storms that have hit land happened to hit densely populated, highly valued areas.
The alarmists cannot allow the truth to get in the way of a good fairy tale.
Insurance companies don't care about climate change or people anymore than PETA cares about animals or people. Both of their top level people only care about their bottom lines. One wants high profit margins while the other wants the donations to keep pouring in.

there is a heck of a lot (maybe MORE!) of infrastructure that didn't exist 50 years ago.

hence...more damage in an average storm.

it isn't rocket surgery...it's common sense!

A lot of money is being spent to make sure people think climate change is still a hoax.

What is most alarming is that it is happening even faster than originally projected. We probably are too late to reverse it at this point. The melting of permafrost is releasing vast amounts of methane which is the worst offender of the greenhouse gases.

Hey Keith, want some mango trees to try at your place?