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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #8442673
07/25/25 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
Originally Posted by spjones
CO2 makes up 0.04% of the atmosphere,,,,

Humans contribute between 3-5 % of total cO2 emitted annually,,,

Make it make sense?

It doesn’t!!!!

Fact and at .02% trees and plants start dying meaning the end of life on earth

Now you're getting to the heart of the matter

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8442675
07/25/25 05:56 PM
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tell you what...when Obama sells off his beachfront properties for pennies on the dollar and Algore gives up flying in private jets, I'll consider that the issue might be serious.

until then...

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8442687
07/25/25 06:33 PM
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The insurance companies are showing us with their coverage costs or no coverage where development won't be covered, which will make those areas only for the very wealthy. Whether we believe in climate change or not or if it is man made or a natural change we should be concerned about how or where we spend monies on infrastructure. There are many very high population areas in the world that are far more vulnerable then we are and if we want to expand markets we should be concerned about that.

Bryce

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8442691
07/25/25 06:41 PM
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insurance companies are not immune to government dogma

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8442695
07/25/25 06:52 PM
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Insurance companies are in big time bind due to massively inflated asset values

Caused by currency debasement

They are using the “climate crisis” as an easy out

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8442851
07/25/25 10:30 PM
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The climates alarmists are claiming that "stronger and more frequent storms caused by climate change have resulted in unprecedented increases in monetary losses."
Truth is, there have not been more strong and frequent storms than ever. What has happened is that the few strong and infrequent storms that have hit land happened to hit densely populated, highly valued areas.
The alarmists cannot allow the truth to get in the way of a good fairy tale.
Insurance companies don't care about climate change or people anymore than PETA cares about animals or people. Both of their top level people only care about their bottom lines. One wants high profit margins while the other wants the donations to keep pouring in.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8442855
07/25/25 10:41 PM
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there is a heck of a lot (maybe MORE!) of infrastructure that didn't exist 50 years ago.

hence...more damage in an average storm.

it isn't rocket surgery...it's common sense!

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8442889
07/25/25 11:23 PM
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A lot of money is being spent to make sure people think climate change is still a hoax.

What is most alarming is that it is happening even faster than originally projected. We probably are too late to reverse it at this point. The melting of permafrost is releasing vast amounts of methane which is the worst offender of the greenhouse gases.

Hey Keith, want some mango trees to try at your place?


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: white marlin] #8442903
07/25/25 11:51 PM
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Human caused variables: Greenhouse gas emissions, Deforestation, Industrial activity, Transportation, Energy production, Agriculture
Naturally occurring variables: Solar radiation, Volcanic activity, Ocean currents and Circulation, Earth's orbit and tilt, Natural carbon sinks, and the Albedo effect. Climate change would have always existed but it would have been a SLOWER process if it wasn't for human variables.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8442916
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I could use some of that warming. Had a fire in the stove today. Been sticking to the 50s most days here lately.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8442940
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According to Al Gore my eastern Pennsylvania property was supposed to be beach front property by now? LOL

After listening to many years of absolute bull crap promoting "man made global warming" even the ignorant masses started to see through the lies. What did the left do? They changed the terminology from global warming to climate change and became a bit more subtle but continued pushing the crap.

And folks like BP wonder why so many, especially those of us on the right, are skeptical.

Fifty years ago it was "global cooling" that was going to exterminate life on earth. I remember hearing about hair-brained schemes to spread fly ash on the polar ice caps to absorb solar heat and save us all. I'm sure there was lots of money to be made if that plan would've moved forward.

It's always about the money, always.


Eh...wot?

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8442995
07/26/25 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
A lot of money is being spent to make sure people think climate change is still a hoax.


how much money was spent to promulgate this hoax?



Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Hey Keith, want some mango trees to try at your place?


you've swerved into a great point for our argument...humans are among the most adaptable species on Earth (maybe coyotes beat us).

even if you are 100 percent right (you're NOT!), humans will figure out how to deal with a new climate. and we won't need no stinking government to tell us how to do it.

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443003
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And AGAIN, climate change is being pushed by the same party that's killing beaver trapping in Oregon. Heck, they are even claiming the beavers are saving the planet. That should make you feel better.


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: trapdog1] #8443076
07/26/25 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
And AGAIN, climate change is being pushed by the same party that's killing beaver trapping in Oregon. Heck, they are even claiming the beavers are saving the planet. That should make you feel better.


Nice one!

Again, I wish the politics of it would be left out and just deal with the science. The science is solid.

I do understand natural weather cycles and of course that has been going on since forever. I actually had meteorology and oceanography courses back in my University days. We called our meteorology class "weather guessing 101".


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443097
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So what are you true believers going to do about climate change?


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443111
07/26/25 12:21 PM
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Personally, I think it's too late. Action should have been taken when scientists first brought it to our attention. Even if the US and European countries curbed our carbon emissions to the levels that they want China and India won't play along....

Put your seatbelt on, world is going to be rocking pretty hard here .


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443118
07/26/25 12:32 PM
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how much money was spent to promulgate this hoax?


It was our money, taxpayers, money spent, it always has been.


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8443126
07/26/25 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Personally, I think it's too late. Action should have been taken when scientists first brought it to our attention. Even if the US and European countries curbed our carbon emissions to the levels that they want China and India won't play along....

Put your seatbelt on, world is going to be rocking pretty hard here .

Maybe if those making the most noise would have led by example instead of taking private jets to climate conferences.


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07/26/25 12:53 PM
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For those who think it’s entirely a hoax - how do you know for sure?

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8443131
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
The science is solid.


there is no established scientific cause and effect relationship.

there is a bought and paid for "consensus" among government-sponsored "scientists".

read any of those conclusions...they are peppered with what I call weasel words such as "might", "could", "may", etc. etc.

and you still didn't address the IPCC officials that the article quotes.

when those in charge of the indoctrination openly admit what they're doing, why won't you believe them?

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