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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443134
07/26/25 01:01 PM
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Is it possible the IPCC officials could have been paid large sums to say those things?

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Not entirely a hoax, I think. We could definitely clean up our act some.
But I don't see John Kerry living in a one room effeciency apartment and riding a bicycle. The Obammy's haven't altered their lifestyle to save the planet. Other than telling me to change my ways, they haven't done a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) thing. It might be a little easier to take seriously if the climate change leaders weren't such hypocrites.


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: ] #8443137
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Is it possible the IPCC officials could have been paid large sums to say those things?


They've been getting ice core samples of past weather and the environment for years.
As old as the ice caps have been around.
Alot of information on our changing climate in those.
Studying tree rings is another example of studying the climate.
Globalists want one thing, and that's total control.
Look at what happened when Europe became the European Union.
Not as many members now are there?
Total control is just like the Covid pandemic , a scare tactic study, to see just how many will follow and do as told!
Same as the European Union experiment .

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443200
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Which to you guys seems to be the bigger draw; "to control things" or to protect the trillions of dollars the fossil fuel interests rake in? Seems pretty clear who stands to benefit the most from persuading the public to their point of view.

Is this not obvious?


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443205
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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8443208
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Which to you guys seems to be the bigger draw; "to control things" or to protect the trillions of dollars the fossil fuel interests rake in? Seems pretty clear who stands to benefit the most from persuading the public to their point of view.

Is this not obvious?


fossil fuel's "trillions of dollars" represent a lot of expensive infrastructure that provide safe, reliable sources of energy-dense products that make modern living possible.

if fossil fuel companies are so selfish, why are developing countries allowed to continue to use their evil products? why don't THEY just put up windmills?

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: white marlin] #8443217
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Which to you guys seems to be the bigger draw; "to control things" or to protect the trillions of dollars the fossil fuel interests rake in? Seems pretty clear who stands to benefit the most from persuading the public to their point of view.

Is this not obvious?


fossil fuel's "trillions of dollars" represent a lot of expensive infrastructure that provide safe, reliable sources of energy-dense products that make modern living possible.

if fossil fuel companies are so selfish, why are developing countries allowed to continue to use their evil products? why don't THEY just put up windmills?



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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443218
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Is there a model out there that includes the impact of the suns changing cycles and slightly shifting poles of earth?
I believe it's also human arrogance to think that we can impact the planet enough to end it
Our civilization is on the downhill side of it's time on this planet
And the planet will be still be here long, long, long after this version of human existence has passed

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: ] #8443241
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
For those who think it’s entirely a hoax - how do you know for sure?



Easy .....it's just plain foolish , to think man can change any significant temperature to the earth

35 yrs of countless wheel barrels of money .....zero effect

If the globe really warmed by any measurable amount over the last 35 years we'd all be dead

Many records over the last 150 yrs still not broken


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: ] #8443274
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
For those who think it’s entirely a hoax - how do you know for sure?


it's common sense, if you actually THINK about it.

and if you examine all of the different environmental "crises" over the last 50-60 years, the proposed "solutions" to every last one of them involve the developed countries giving up their competitive edge, while allowing every third world country to continue polluting in the same manner that they are decrying.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443307
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I guess you guys are just smarter than the phD's that have devoted their lives to studying these things. I'll just shut up then.


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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I guess you guys are just smarter than the phD's that have devoted their lives to studying these things. I'll just shut up then.



I wonder how devoted they'd be ifn they got no pay check ?


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443314
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Being that they hope their kids and grandkids have a moderately inhabitable planet to live on...I'll bet devoted enough.

Oh, forgot I was gonna shut up. LOL!

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8443316
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Being that they hope their kids and grandkids have a moderately inhabitable planet to live on...I'll bet devoted enough.


that would be much more care than the Algore and Obama-types demonstrate. they still fly on private planes and own oceanfront mansions...Rules for thee, but not for me!

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443317
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Burning fossil fuels bad?

Guess Canada didn't get the memo, they're letting the forests burn with so much smoke you can see it from litter space, yet it's to expensive to put out. Go figure.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8443322
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Being that they hope their kids and grandkids have a moderately inhabitable planet to live on...I'll bet devoted enough.

Oh, forgot I was gonna shut up. LOL!

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443411
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I’m always intrigued by somebody taking a definitive stance on something like this. You can follow the money on either side, and it takes you down a misleading path no matter the direction.

That said, I think it’s absolutely foolish to think humans can’t impact the planet in a meaningful way. What’s the percentage of land area that has been developed by humans for any reason? That used to be some form of habitat that no longer takes place in natural cycles.

In my 35 years I’ve personally seen signs of a changing climate. Multiple entire mountainsides of Alaska Yellow Cedar dead, glaciers that have sped up their recession exponentially (it’s been measured), I’ve personally fought wildfire, and a significant lack of snowfall during late deer season/Christmas compared to when I was a child. That’s just to name a few.

Are we impacting the Earth? Absolutely. Are we impacting it enough to end civilization? I donno. Haven’t been around for thousands of years, but it sure seems like we’re speeding things up.

Here’s my question to the climate change naysayers - what percent of Earth’s land area can be developed before humans cease to exist?

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443413
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Use to be glaciers where you live Leroy, and they were gone before there were enough people here to have a square dance.

What happened to them?


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They receded slowly.

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