If only we would have payed more taxes those trees would still be alive.

Lol you guys probably crushed debate team in high school.

If you’ve read anything I’ve said, I’ve never claimed the world is ending. What I’ve stated the whole time is that I think it’s foolish to believe humans CAN’T have an impact on the planet. Nobody has given me solid proof to think I’m wrong.

I’ll find you some links, White. It’s a huge concern for the timber industry of SE Alaska given the high values of the yellow cedar to the export market.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/r10/natural-resources/forest-health/yellow-cedar-decline

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow-cedar_decline

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/...est-health/declines/yellow-cedar-decline

Lots of information out there if you Google “yellow cedar decline”

I believe in climate change. We don’t have anything to do with it and it’s arrogant of mankind to think that we do. Put that in your pipe and smoke it along with the local weed.

Heck of an argument. But why couldn’t humans impact it?

I appreciate the links, Leroy. and over the next few days, will delve deeper into them (heading to Church in a few).

but this one snippet from US Forest Service in 1993 is intriguing...

"Ecological studies.
Our studies on the ecological aspects of cedar decline suggest that extensive tree mortality began a little over 100 years ago in about 1880. Our evidence also suggests that decline began at about the same time on all sites where it now occurs --thus it has not spread to any new sites since onset. The boundaries of decline have spread slightly at some sites, but typically by not more than 300 feet in the last century. Where decline has spread locally, its spread has been out of bogs (muskegs) upslope to trees growing on somewhat better drainage. Cedar decline is highly specific to certain sites, characterized by having poor drainage. Less commonly, cedar decline occurs on steeper hillsides where soils are very shallow and underlaid by bedrock. But yellow-cedar trees growing with other conifers on more productive sites with better drainage away from bogs have not experienced cedar decline. We predict that the problem will not develop in such forests."

I’d be happy to hear about what you uncover. It’s a challenge I dealt with from a professional standpoint and something that lead me to think about human impacts from a personal standpoint.

what is your profession?

Next time you fly get a window seat. Human alterations are everywhere.

I can see those [dang] windmills from 35,000 feet.

This thread mirrors the one that was on here a while back about the C-19 jabs. Same thought process with the same people. Left-right, red-blue. Odd? Not really!

It doesn't work that way. You need to make your case and you haven't. You're parroting cherry-picked talking points off the internet like everyone else. You don't have the requisite background or knowledge to assess the data and arguments from those who have done the actual work. And I know all this because you're bloviating about "climate research" with trappers on an internet forum.

Jkeith, I’m playing devil’s advocate and asking questions. So far, no good answers. Just politics, YouTube, “follow the money”, and just like you just said - “you’re not qualified”. You just chimed in on a trapping forum, so your response doesn’t mean a hill of beans. And you STILL haven’t provided a reason why human’s are incapable of influencing the Earth.

Follow along Leroy brown.....

During the 3rd and 4th industrial revolutions we had no measurable global warming . Any extraction and use of natural resources and its supposed detriment to the earth were offset by its production . See photos below.

Environmental nazism, and clean air acts are responsible for reducing man made UV blockers .

This is my theory and it's not any more ridiculous than thinking we can tax our way out of a globe that is supposedly warming .

It's a theory that's overlooked by paid scientists, backed by a left wing nutt agenda.


So put that in your pipe and smoke it .....


We need more of this ......just look at India

Thank you for reiterating your politically-motivated tax theory, FunAntiGov

How in the world does a Google AI-generated snippet derived from an unknown source prove anything? Lol

How does it not ...lol


It's my theory....I'm sticking with it ......you can bang your head on the the table and follow the money to a bogus claim all you want

As much fun as I’m having going in circles with you cerebral types, I’m going to take the BP route and bow out. I’m worried this is like watching CNN or FOX news - stare at it long enough and you’ll believe it.

Here's one for the road , Leroy brown..



Even the geese are loving the man made UV blockers



BTW you certainly haven't proved me wrong