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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443624
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Next time you fly get a window seat. Human alterations are everywhere.

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Kansas Cat] #8443626
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Next time you fly get a window seat. Human alterations ate everywhere.


I can see those [dang] windmills from 35,000 feet.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443635
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This thread mirrors the one that was on here a while back about the C-19 jabs. Same thought process with the same people. Left-right, red-blue. Odd? Not really!


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Leroy Bob] #8443638
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
What I’ve stated the whole time is that I think it’s foolish to believe humans CAN’T have an impact on the planet. Nobody has given me solid proof to think I’m wrong.

It doesn't work that way. You need to make your case and you haven't. You're parroting cherry-picked talking points off the internet like everyone else. You don't have the requisite background or knowledge to assess the data and arguments from those who have done the actual work. And I know all this because you're bloviating about "climate research" with trappers on an internet forum.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443648
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Jkeith, I’m playing devil’s advocate and asking questions. So far, no good answers. Just politics, YouTube, “follow the money”, and just like you just said - “you’re not qualified”. You just chimed in on a trapping forum, so your response doesn’t mean a hill of beans. And you STILL haven’t provided a reason why human’s are incapable of influencing the Earth.

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443659
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Follow along Leroy brown.....

During the 3rd and 4th industrial revolutions we had no measurable global warming . Any extraction and use of natural resources and its supposed detriment to the earth were offset by its production . See photos below.

Environmental nazism, and clean air acts are responsible for reducing man made UV blockers .

This is my theory and it's not any more ridiculous than thinking we can tax our way out of a globe that is supposedly warming .

It's a theory that's overlooked by paid scientists, backed by a left wing nutt agenda.


So put that in your pipe and smoke it .....


We need more of this ......just look at India





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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443660
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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443662
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Thank you for reiterating your politically-motivated tax theory, FunAntiGov

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How in the world does a Google AI-generated snippet derived from an unknown source prove anything? Lol

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Leroy Bob] #8443666
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
How in the world does a Google AI-generated snippet derived from an unknown source prove anything? Lol



How does it not ...lol


It's my theory....I'm sticking with it ......you can bang your head on the the table and follow the money to a bogus claim all you want


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As much fun as I’m having going in circles with you cerebral types, I’m going to take the BP route and bow out. I’m worried this is like watching CNN or FOX news - stare at it long enough and you’ll believe it.

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Here's one for the road , Leroy brown..



Even the geese are loving the man made UV blockers



BTW you certainly haven't proved me wrong





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Then how do people get sunburnt on cloudy days?

Got any more brain busters?

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It’s a good thing you guys aren’t beaver, BP would have you on a board.

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Okay, I’m done….maybe

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What ?

It doesn't eliminate the sun .....obviously......we'd all be dead


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Originally Posted by newfox1
It’s a good thing you guys aren’t beaver, BP would have you on a board.

Except the climate change folks won’t let him trap beaver anymore…..

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Leroy Bob] #8443701
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Then how do people get sunburnt on cloudy days?

Got any more brain busters?


Ultra violet rays go through the clouds .
Cloudy days the sun doesn't reflect back into the sky.
That's why it's colder on clear nights, there's no cloud cover to hold the heat down.


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Then how do people get sunburnt on cloudy days?

Got any more brain busters?


Ultra violet rays go through the clouds .
Cloudy days the sun doesn't reflect back into the sky.
That's why it's colder on clear nights, there's no cloud cover to hold the heat down.


I know. He keeps calling those smokestacks UV blockers. Maybe he’s being facetious

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from one of the links Leroy posted..."Most of the trees that have died within the last century, and continue to die, regenerated during the Little Ice Age (1400-1850). Heavy snow accumulation is thought to have occurred during this period, giving yellow-cedar a competitive advantage on low-elevation sites in Southeast Alaska. Trees on these sites are now susceptible to exposure-freezing injury under warmer climate conditions. An abnormal rate of yellow-cedar mortality began around 1880, accelerated in the 1970s and 1980s, and continues today. These dates coincide with the end of the Little Ice Age and a warm period in the Pacific Decadal Oscillation. On a finer temporal scale, recent analysis of 20th century weather station data from Southeast Alaska documented increased temperatures and reduced snowpack in late winter months, in combination with the persistence of freezing weather events in spring (Beier et al. 2008)."

"From the time crown symptoms appear, it takes 10 to 15 years for trees to die, making it difficult to associate observations from aerial surveys to weather events in particular years. Mortality has subsided somewhat in the last three decades."


so, during the Little Ice Age, many of these trees got their start as seedlings due to a competitive advantage from a heavy snow pack. as the Little Ice Age came to a close in 1850 (before widespread Industrial Age pollution), these trees began to decline (spiking in 1880). the decline accelerated 45-55 years ago and continues today.

where is the cause and effect nexus with human activity?

why would mortality have subsided somewhat over the last three decades? that doesn't make sense in the global warming paradigm.

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