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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: 52Carl] #8444746
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
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Funny how in 35 yrs of bs no one can say how much the globe has warmed.....I wanna see a number

I would like to see a report of the temperature of the planet on any given day. I'll let them pick the day.
We'll never see it, because the land, the ocean, and the atmosphere is so vast, complex, much of it unaccessible, and ever changing that it cannot be done.
The best they have to go on are miniscule random sampling data which is so minute that it fails to meet the standards of a valid scientific study.


https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/?intent=121

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8444756
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The greenhouse effect is not some sort of new “phenomenon”. It was first theorized in the early 1800’s and the specific gases were theorized later in the 1800’s. Who was funding leftist whacko agendas in the 19th century??

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8444760
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It’s well documented that many of the historic weather stations don’t exist anymore, and they continue to report “estimates” based an historical data

The ones that do still exist were built back in day, outside of built up areas,,,,,,today they are surrounded by concrete/asphalt/ urban sprawl. Giving distorted temps

Recently it was in the headlines that Las Vegas recorded the highest recorded temperature ever,,,blew past previous records

For years the weather station was at the end of the runway in the sand/desert. The airport expanded, and surrounded the station with black asphalt,,,,

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8444782
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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: D.T.] #8444789
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I'm not sure what you are showing here... but its easy to just draw a graph with no reference or source.

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Leroy Bob] #8444798
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob


Human advancement has been exponential over the last 250 years. We alter the landscape everywhere we go, most often in a negative manner. Maybe it’s just a coincidence the world tends to be warming up, on average, in that timespan.


Yes, we have altered the landscape, but negative or positive depends on your perspective.

Modern agriculture has probably altered the landscape as much as anything. Folks who frequenty go to grocery stores for an incredibly diverse selection of affordable food would consider it a positive.

We have altered the landscape with transportation and utility corridors all across the country. Those of us who travel anywhere we want forr work or pleasure, or flick a light switch, or set a thermostat, consider it a positive.

I could go on........

If this has caused the planet to warm somewhat perhaps the benefits outweigh the cost.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8444799
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The miniscule increase in Co2 is for a fact beneficial to growing food, still just a theory as part of global warming.


Just the right amount of whelm.
Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: walleye101] #8444806
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by Leroy Bob


Human advancement has been exponential over the last 250 years. We alter the landscape everywhere we go, most often in a negative manner. Maybe it’s just a coincidence the world tends to be warming up, on average, in that timespan.


Yes, we have altered the landscape, but negative or positive depends on your perspective.

Modern agriculture has probably altered the landscape as much as anything. Folks who frequenty go to grocery stores for an incredibly diverse selection of affordable food would consider it a positive.

We have altered the landscape with transportation and utility corridors all across the country. Those of us who travel anywhere we want forr work or pleasure, or flick a light switch, or set a thermostat, consider it a positive.

I could go on........

If this has caused the planet to warm somewhat perhaps the benefits outweigh the cost.


Fear of change is something a lot of folks grapple with, some of us, not so much.


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: walleye101] #8444840
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by Leroy Bob


Human advancement has been exponential over the last 250 years. We alter the landscape everywhere we go, most often in a negative manner. Maybe it’s just a coincidence the world tends to be warming up, on average, in that timespan.


Yes, we have altered the landscape, but negative or positive depends on your perspective.

Modern agriculture has probably altered the landscape as much as anything. Folks who frequenty go to grocery stores for an incredibly diverse selection of affordable food would consider it a positive.

We have altered the landscape with transportation and utility corridors all across the country. Those of us who travel anywhere we want forr work or pleasure, or flick a light switch, or set a thermostat, consider it a positive.

I could go on........

If this has caused the planet to warm somewhat perhaps the benefits outweigh the cost.


I think this is a fair point. I’m not personally convinced we’re at catastrophic levels of change, but there are plenty of negative impacts to be considered. The first that comes to mind is our lack of safe ice to fish on the last half decade. I’d sure love to get that back regularly.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Leroy Bob] #8444915
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That kind of makes my point Leroy. Is safe ice for fishing, even if you could assure it, worth reversing the positive gains achieved during the industrial age. Contrary to what the Climate folks would tell you, the impacts of the industrial revolution will not be reversed by building a few windmills or changing all your light bulbs to LED. That is the real inconvenient truth.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Leroy Bob] #8444918
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
there are plenty of negative impacts to be considered. The first that comes to mind is our lack of safe ice to fish on the last half decade. I’d sure love to get that back regularly.



while we were in Finland in March, we drove a dogsled down a frozen river.

hop a plane and go ice fishing.

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Nothing wrong with wanting to ice fish. You can take a lap, white.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8445303
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No ice for me ......hate cold .....love the hot desert and the transition to cooler mountain tops

So a warmer climate would be a blessing


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8445541
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Trumps EPA just eliminated Obama's climate change regulations.

Time to take the shackles off our companies!


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Trumps EPA just eliminated Obama's climate change regulations.

Time to take the shackles off our companies!



What, now the worlds going to end tomorrow.

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There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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