Re: Still believing in climate change?
[Re: 52Carl]
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Funny how in 35 yrs of bs no one can say how much the globe has warmed.....I wanna see a number I would like to see a report of the temperature of the planet on any given day. I'll let them pick the day. We'll never see it, because the land, the ocean, and the atmosphere is so vast, complex, much of it unaccessible, and ever changing that it cannot be done. The best they have to go on are miniscule random sampling data which is so minute that it fails to meet the standards of a valid scientific study. https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/?intent=121 ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/07/full-24446-264712-temp.png)
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Re: Still believing in climate change?
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07/29/25 08:22 AM
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It’s well documented that many of the historic weather stations don’t exist anymore, and they continue to report “estimates” based an historical data
The ones that do still exist were built back in day, outside of built up areas,,,,,,today they are surrounded by concrete/asphalt/ urban sprawl. Giving distorted temps
Recently it was in the headlines that Las Vegas recorded the highest recorded temperature ever,,,blew past previous records
For years the weather station was at the end of the runway in the sand/desert. The airport expanded, and surrounded the station with black asphalt,,,,
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Re: Still believing in climate change?
[Re: Leroy Bob]
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07/29/25 10:15 AM
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Human advancement has been exponential over the last 250 years. We alter the landscape everywhere we go, most often in a negative manner. Maybe it’s just a coincidence the world tends to be warming up, on average, in that timespan.
Yes, we have altered the landscape, but negative or positive depends on your perspective. Modern agriculture has probably altered the landscape as much as anything. Folks who frequenty go to grocery stores for an incredibly diverse selection of affordable food would consider it a positive. We have altered the landscape with transportation and utility corridors all across the country. Those of us who travel anywhere we want forr work or pleasure, or flick a light switch, or set a thermostat, consider it a positive. I could go on........ If this has caused the planet to warm somewhat perhaps the benefits outweigh the cost.
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Re: Still believing in climate change?
[Re: Finster]
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07/29/25 10:18 AM
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The miniscule increase in Co2 is for a fact beneficial to growing food, still just a theory as part of global warming.
Just the right amount of whelm.
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Re: Still believing in climate change?
[Re: walleye101]
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07/29/25 10:31 AM
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Human advancement has been exponential over the last 250 years. We alter the landscape everywhere we go, most often in a negative manner. Maybe it’s just a coincidence the world tends to be warming up, on average, in that timespan.
Yes, we have altered the landscape, but negative or positive depends on your perspective. Modern agriculture has probably altered the landscape as much as anything. Folks who frequenty go to grocery stores for an incredibly diverse selection of affordable food would consider it a positive. We have altered the landscape with transportation and utility corridors all across the country. Those of us who travel anywhere we want forr work or pleasure, or flick a light switch, or set a thermostat, consider it a positive. I could go on........ If this has caused the planet to warm somewhat perhaps the benefits outweigh the cost. Fear of change is something a lot of folks grapple with, some of us, not so much.
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Re: Still believing in climate change?
[Re: walleye101]
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07/29/25 11:28 AM
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Human advancement has been exponential over the last 250 years. We alter the landscape everywhere we go, most often in a negative manner. Maybe it’s just a coincidence the world tends to be warming up, on average, in that timespan.
Yes, we have altered the landscape, but negative or positive depends on your perspective. Modern agriculture has probably altered the landscape as much as anything. Folks who frequenty go to grocery stores for an incredibly diverse selection of affordable food would consider it a positive. We have altered the landscape with transportation and utility corridors all across the country. Those of us who travel anywhere we want forr work or pleasure, or flick a light switch, or set a thermostat, consider it a positive. I could go on........ If this has caused the planet to warm somewhat perhaps the benefits outweigh the cost. I think this is a fair point. I’m not personally convinced we’re at catastrophic levels of change, but there are plenty of negative impacts to be considered. The first that comes to mind is our lack of safe ice to fish on the last half decade. I’d sure love to get that back regularly.
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Re: Still believing in climate change?
[Re: Leroy Bob]
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07/29/25 02:08 PM
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there are plenty of negative impacts to be considered. The first that comes to mind is our lack of safe ice to fish on the last half decade. I’d sure love to get that back regularly.
while we were in Finland in March, we drove a dogsled down a frozen river. hop a plane and go ice fishing.
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Re: Still believing in climate change?
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07/29/25 11:53 PM
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No ice for me ......hate cold .....love the hot desert and the transition to cooler mountain tops
So a warmer climate would be a blessing
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Re: Still believing in climate change?
[Re: Finster]
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Trumps EPA just eliminated Obama's climate change regulations.
Time to take the shackles off our companies!
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: Still believing in climate change?
[Re: hippie]
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Trumps EPA just eliminated Obama's climate change regulations.
Time to take the shackles off our companies!
What, now the worlds going to end tomorrow.
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Re: Still believing in climate change?
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Last edited by hippie; Yesterday at 11:54 AM.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: Still believing in climate change?
[Re: Finster]
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I like his reporting. What the report he did on Wikipedia
Everything the left touches it destroys
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Re: Still believing in climate change?
[Re: GritGuy]
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Did not read all the info placed here for such a question, however my opinion of green house effect is it's a ridiculous stab at getting attention for something no one can control or even guess what it affects at any one time !!
There are more volcano's going off now than have been done so in the last 30 years or so and no one is regarding that as a dismal salute to our future, and they throw off more ugly stuff in just a burb than our world can do in 100 years !
So if one is worried about Co2 and green house they sure have not done much research about how this world got so far in age with all them volcanos going off all over, some one or some how there is natural cleansing going on all the time to keep this green and blue planet going !! Grit - the natural greenhouse gas effect was first proposed in 1824. The specific gases causing it were identified about 50 years later. 19th century scientists, no bias just pure curiosity and testing. Again, it’s a real thing but not as severe as we’re led to believe. There’s also these things called “plants” that pull CO2 from the air (or cleansing, so to speak) and use it during photosynthesis for plant growth.
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