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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8445750
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Yes I'm aware of the process, and it's been the same thing up and down since it was known, which leads me to believe it just another type of info that is only out there for conjecture on why its there LOL

There are probably a hundred other things that could be attached to an info idea one why or another, but after this many years of knowing and the green house affect has not done anything more or less on this busy dirtball floating around, just makes me wonder how it keeps getting funded to keep saying the same thing over and over !!


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446028
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Any of those computer models take into account the Earth's North Pole shift
from all of the dams?

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446090
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I may have missed it, but what is the correct temperature of the earth supposed to be?

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: white marlin] #8446093
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Originally Posted by BandB
I may have missed it, but what is the correct temperature of the earth supposed to be?

You didn't miss it because there is none.
Originally Posted by white marlin
Any of those computer models take into account the Earth's North Pole shift
from all of the dams?

That's sorta funny

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446095
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My belief:

There is irrefutable evidence of very dramatic climate changes before man had any chance to influence it. Ice ages and warming cycles and all. Man couldn't have stopped it at any point then, or now!

God created this earth and put it in orbit around the sun. He put water, plants, animals, (and fossil fuels - (maybe a result of those dramatic climate cycles)) on it for HIS purposes - to bring about the immortality and eternal lives of man. He placed Adam and Eve here and gave them and their descendants dominion over the earth and it's resources. HE knew we would need vast quantities of a reliable energy source and He provided it. He wants us to use these resources wisely and with gratitude.

Scripture tell us the earth won't stay in this state forever but will be cleansed by fire and renewed. But until then we're good.

Genesis 8:22 - "While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease."

I try to use the resources God gives me responsibly and with gratitude. I'll keep my trust in God and my Savior Jesus Christ - not in the philosophies of man.




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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: wetdog] #8446139
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Originally Posted by wetdog
Originally Posted by white marlin
Any of those computer models take into account the Earth's North Pole shift
from all of the dams?

That's sorta funny


I agree. It was a scare tactic news feed I just saw. Tried to link to it, but I'm down to just a phone, and don't know how to.

Pretty ridiculous...

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446227
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Please to excuse as I realize that y'alls life experiences as trappers, etc, make you a lot smarter than these know-it-all NOAA scientists.


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446229
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Yep , all those dopes at NASA know nothing too Beaverpeeler. They’re likely just a bunch of overpaid libtards taking money to make stuff up about climate change. I’m sure the coffee shop gossip gang and YouTubers/podcasters more reliable.

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446230
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Here is the whole thing in a nutshell, if you want to spend your money on saving the planet, have at it. I’ll spend mine how I see fit.


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446232
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This is really a pointless discussion because nobody is going to do anything about it anyway.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8446236
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
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Please to excuse as I realize that y'alls life experiences as trappers, etc, make you a lot smarter than these know-it-all NOAA scientists.



So what is the correct temperature for the earth?

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446239
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Its funny hearing all the naysayers of the podcasters/youtubers. Youtube and the internet in general might be a terrible place of procrastination and useless info, but it can also showcase some of the most brilliant minds that the earth has on many topics. Learning something there is just as valuable as your government sponsored info. It’s certainly more diverse with opinions and the viewer / listener can make up their own mind.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446241
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There’s an old saying “ if you trust the government,,,,,you haven’t studied history”

Since the beginning of governments(Roman times,,,) it should known by now that power eventually breeds self interests over public good


The “ climate crisis” is the prefect example

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: BandB] #8446252
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Originally Posted by BandB
So what is the correct temperature for the earth?

It's not necessarily about optimal temperature, but the most sensationalist voices worry about triggering a runaway greenhouse effect with a vicious feedback loop (as the earth heats up, more greenhouse gases are released, which heats the earth more and releases more greenhouse gases) that will turn us into Venus.

Venus has much more than 410 ppm of CO2 in its atmosphere and it wasn't put there by man burning fossil fuels, so I'm very skeptical that we're anywhere near triggering a runaway greenhouse effect. beaverpeeler has spoken specifically about permafrost thawing and releasing methane, but there have been periods in the earth's past that were warmer than now and the thawed permafrost didn't trigger a runaway greenhouse effect.

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: rvsask] #8446264
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Originally Posted by rvsask
Yep , all those dopes at NASA know nothing too Beaverpeeler. They’re likely just a bunch of overpaid libtards taking money to make stuff up about climate change. I’m sure the coffee shop gossip gang and YouTubers/podcasters more reliable.


LOL. The Tman anti-science crew should post their education level and highest math and science classes. And grades.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446267
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If they could prove they cured acid rain, wouldn't that give them license to spend more of your money ?

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446284
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More taxes , and up front fees will surely fix this imaginary issue ........especially with people eager to pay it

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8446289
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by BandB
So what is the correct temperature for the earth?

It's not necessarily about optimal temperature, but the most sensationalist voices worry about triggering a runaway greenhouse effect with a vicious feedback loop (as the earth heats up, more greenhouse gases are released, which heats the earth more and releases more greenhouse gases) that will turn us into Venus.

Venus has much more than 410 ppm of CO2 in its atmosphere and it wasn't put there by man burning fossil fuels, so I'm very skeptical that we're anywhere near triggering a runaway greenhouse effect. beaverpeeler has spoken specifically about permafrost thawing and releasing methane, but there have been periods in the earth's past that were warmer than now and the thawed permafrost didn't trigger a runaway greenhouse effect.


How close is Venus to a sun? Tough comparison

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Blaine County] #8446291
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by rvsask
Yep , all those dopes at NASA know nothing too Beaverpeeler. They’re likely just a bunch of overpaid libtards taking money to make stuff up about climate change. I’m sure the coffee shop gossip gang and YouTubers/podcasters more reliable.


LOL. The Tman anti-science crew should post their education level and highest math and science classes. And grades.


Some of the flat out dumbest people in the country have advanced degrees.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: BandB] #8446294
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Originally Posted by BandB
I may have missed it, but what is the correct temperature of the earth supposed to be?

You can ask this question over and over and all you'll get is deflection because there is NO baseline temperature for the earth.

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