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Baptism ? #8444797
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Who can perform it?


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I reckon anybody can but I would prefer a fellow believer to perform such a task.

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even the Catholics recognize , baptism may be performed by any other believer who has already been baptized.


baptism and last rights are only sacraments not needing a priest.

that way if your in your small remote village and a priest won't be around for days or weeks you can take care of birth and death


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Originally Posted by J Staton
I reckon anybody can but I would prefer a fellow believer to perform such a task.

I agree. It's doubtful a non-believer would want to.


We are living in a world where the intelligent must be quiet so that the no common sense people won't be offended.
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But it's a public declaration so it's not something you and a buddy do in private, IMO.


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Saw some getting dunked in the river while we were crabbing

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what denomination? I grew up methodist, was baptized in the methodist church, I now attend a baptist church,, the method used in the methodist church, is not acceptable to join a baptist church and I have a problem with that. A baptism should not have rules attached, the guy who is sprinkled in the name of the trinity believes just as much as the guy who is dunked.

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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
what denomination? I grew up methodist, was baptized in the methodist church, I now attend a baptist church,, the method used in the methodist church, is not acceptable to join a baptist church and I have a problem with that. A baptism should not have rules attached, the guy who is sprinkled in the name of the trinity believes just as much as the guy who is dunked.


Were you sprinkled as a infant? I could see where Baptist would have issue with that..


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no, I was 12

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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
no, I was 12


So what is there issue then?

Last edited by grumley701; 07/29/25 06:49 PM.

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you have to be dunked

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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
you have to be dunked


Biblical...


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Re: Baptism ? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8445043
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Re: Baptism ? [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #8445046
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
what denomination? I grew up methodist, was baptized in the methodist church, I now attend a baptist church,, the method used in the methodist church, is not acceptable to join a baptist church and I have a problem with that. A baptism should not have rules attached, the guy who is sprinkled in the name of the trinity believes just as much as the guy who is dunked.


As a baptist of the definite Sola Sciptura bent, I find zero scriptural authority for paedobaptism or baptism by sprinkle. Scripture clearly defines credobaptism, adult baptism of repentance, and clearly describes baptism via immersion.

Now that said, I would not refuse fellowship to a brother that has met the requirement of repentance and acceptance of Christ as Lord. Afterall the thief on the cross entered into heaven.

BTW, using the same example I believe there should be no issue with sprinkling for those unable to be immersed. Though as a believer I do believe we are duty bound to follow our Savior's baptism example to the utmost of our ability.


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So guess I'm not good enough to be a baptist!

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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
So guess I'm not good enough to be a baptist!


Didn't say that. But what objection do you have doing as our Savior did?


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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
So guess I'm not good enough to be a baptist!

As far as I'm concerned your a Christian attending a Baptist church and are welcomed. You just might not to get to learn the secret handshake. lol

Re: Baptism ? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8445072
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Immersion makes sense as being born again, coming out of water as you did when you were in the womb.


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none other than I did as I knew at the time was the way to give my heart to the savior, then when all heck broke loose inn the methodist church and I switched to another church, all of a sudden I can't join that church because I am not baptized in the proper manor. Seems to me like a government telling me I have to do it like this to ensure my salvation. never read that in the bible!

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I wouldn't get all bent up about it, the way I look at it is that they're just trying to stay within scripture.. The easy solution is to get a full submersion baptism and join the church..


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Babies can not profession faith

Sprinkling a baby is a pope thing

Christ gave us examples.

However believing is enough Christ forgave the murderer on the cross and said he'd be in paradise...the murderer died without being baptized


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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper


However believing is enough Christ forgave the murderer on the cross and said he'd be in paradise...the murderer died without being baptized


How could you possibly know that???? Not you alone, someone else said that. How do y'all know he wasn't baptised before turning bad???


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What about Anabaptism?

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Originally Posted by wetdog
What about Anabaptism?


…. Glad there wasn’t an L in there


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Originally Posted by wetdog
What about Anabaptism?


Anabaptism was a protestant movement centered upon adult baptism, anabaptism literally means re-baptism, seperation of church and state. It arose in central Europe, germant/czech/swiss, seperate from other movements such as Hus and later Luther. They are not directly related to the much later baptist movement which came out of the Anglican/Presbyterian/Reformed tradition as the Puritan and later Baptist movements.

Anabaptists would produce the Mennonite/Amish movements.


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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by wetdog
What about Anabaptism?


…. Glad there wasn’t an L in there

I watch my P's & Q's and my L's on Tman

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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by wetdog
What about Anabaptism?


Anabaptism was a protestant movement centered upon adult baptism, anabaptism literally means re-baptism, seperation of church and state. It arose in central Europe, germant/czech/swiss, seperate from other movements such as Hus and later Luther. They are not directly related to the much later baptist movement which came out of the Anglican/Presbyterian/Reformed tradition as the Puritan and later Baptist movements.

Anabaptists would produce the Mennonite/Amish movements.

Menonite yes. The Amish believe in baptism 8 days after birth.
If memory serves. And yes, in the 1500s
It's a fascinating story

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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Who can perform it?

I'm guessing Sval is not to exited about another L Baptism.
( WHAT'S THAT? I HEAR BANJOES)


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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by wetdog
What about Anabaptism?


…. Glad there wasn’t an L in there

Hahaha
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Baptize in original Greek is Baptizo meaning to make overwhelmed (that is) fully wet. Everyone in the book of Acts went down into the water. Also Romans 6:4-11 is a great scripture to really grasp the significance of submersion. I was sprinkled as a child and when I got born again, saved, or forgiven (however you like to say it) God impressed upon me to be baptized. Sprinkling with water is not in the Bible.


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I baptized myself after work today in the shower.. Trailer valve had a comeapart. It was a might hot and humid today. Shower felt pretty good.


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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
none other than I did as I knew at the time was the way to give my heart to the savior, then when all heck broke loose inn the methodist church and I switched to another church, all of a sudden I can't join that church because I am not baptized in the proper manor. Seems to me like a government telling me I have to do it like this to ensure my salvation. never read that in the bible!


Biblical baptism is an outward sign of an inward decision that makes you new again. Therefore it requires you to make a decision. Infants can't make a decision and therefore infant baptism isn't biblical baptism.

Is baptism required for salvation? No. Are Christians commanded to be baptised? Yes.

My church also requires baptism to become a member. All are welcome here...really! But you can't become a voting member unless you are baptised. I have mxed feelings about that. The early church didn't have voting members, no creed to agree to, elders ran things not voting members. But no church is perfect. Strive for perfection but choose a church that is striving to follow the teachings of the Bible and realize that we live in a flawed world where there can be no "perfect"...yet.

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I’ve been baptized several times. First time was with holy water in the church as a baby. Since then, I’ve been baptized more times than I care to admit by full submersion at the house of the beaver. Usually near the feed pile on the coldest day of the year.

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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
what denomination? I grew up methodist, was baptized in the methodist church, I now attend a baptist church,, the method used in the methodist church, is not acceptable to join a baptist church and I have a problem with that. A baptism should not have rules attached, the guy who is sprinkled in the name of the trinity believes just as much as the guy who is dunked.


Heard a funny story regarding this. Some farm kids decided to save all the farm animals and were busy baptizing them in a farm pond. They just couldn't quite get the goat submerged and so the older kid finally decided the goat would just be sprinkled and it could go to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)!


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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
you have to be dunked

I attend a rather conservative, orthodox, baptist church. We recently sprinkled a guy, first time in the churches history. The 18 year old guy is severly disable and is permanently attached to a wheel chair/rolling bed device.
Do I think that qualifies as a baptism? Of course.


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Originally Posted by waggler
Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
you have to be dunked

I attend a rather conservative, orthodox, baptist church. We recently sprinkled a guy, first time in the churches history. The 18 year old guy is severly disable and is permanently attached to a wheel chair/rolling bed device.
Do I think that qualifies as a baptism? Of course.


I do too because he could make a choice...a profession.


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As I recall there were instructions in the Lutheran Hymnal I had in Grade school. Ca 1965 or so.

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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner1960
So guess I'm not good enough to be a baptist!



Did your church not have newmbers classes that go through what makes a Baptist a Baptist? Mine did.
Told how the Baptist came about and the core beliefs & scripture that backed it up.

to be honest before that I didn't have a clue about the doctrine diffrence between different flavors beyond the name on the building. All I knew was I liked what I found out later was expository preaching. At that southern Baptist church. Got more out of the book learned I could spend an evening in small group breaking down just a few sentences and still run out of time.

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