This thread has truly opened my eyes to the selfishness of some men. Men that have taken vows and promised their bride they would be there for her. Now, some saying divorce is the best thing done in their life. Many profess to be be Christ followers but in trials and tribulations spout out to get the best lawyer they can afford and are driven on material possessions. It truly saddens me to know that so many men have not loved their brides even in the dark times and learned to fight on their knees and allow the Lord to lead them to love their brides even when they don't deserve it. See, I don't deserve it. I am a dirty rotten lying adulterer at heart but only by the blood of Jesus have I been forgiven and learned to love. Love without limitations. Love without being hung up on material possessions and thinking I am owed this or that. I can't control my next heartbeat - but I can try and exert self control and show love to even those that offend, ridicule, and dismiss.
Most of you are right - I have no idea what you are going through. But I do know - there is no justification that will ever make it right. Jesus even spoke on it due to the hardening of your hearts. I pray some of you men allow God to soften your hearts so you can allow the love of Christ to overwhelm you and you have the ability to love others unconditionally.

TreedBlackdog.

When you PM'd me You answered 1 of my questions

What about these that you Skipped over?

And don't tell me you'd pray about it.

:God forgave the murderer he can and would forgive me even if I re- married.

Did he forgive King David? Who sent a woman's husband to be killed on the front lines.

How about concubines?
How about Saul
How about Abraham and Sarah's handmaiden?

Im only human - Not married to a submissive woman

You cannot pretend to understand my situation" Scott

DD ?

Yote?

TBD wants to "Stone me" but I should stay here for 20 more years.

No where did I say I want to stone you. I want you to fight like a man for your marriage. Quit following the way of the world and giving up and taking the easy way out. Learn to love your spouse even when you can't stand her.

I will answer every question you have - did Jesus forgive those in the Bible - yes he did. Are you grieving the Holy Spirit and using Gods forgiveness as a crutch to continue on in sin? I don't know this - only you. But when a man is already contemplating a possible re-marriage when he is yet still married - that shows me your heart. Scripture tells me you shall know a tree by its fruit. Brother all I am is a fruit inspector. Jesus said a heart was hardened in divorce. Not me.


I would never count on Gods future forgiveness to continue on in selfishness and my fleshly desires. Do you really think God wants divorce and re-marriage? He speaks against it.

Now we are getting somewhere.

I know you mean well but you are achieving nothing and infact appearance is becoming more Self Righteous Than helping. There are a few listed examples valid reasons for divorce directly in the bible and others in paul aluded to like Abandanment. Good for you If you choose to live life miserable. O wait that's is not you so easy to get all high and mighty. "I would never" self promotion validation. Then your Judjment on how other think. But you fail to see it.

The largest turn off I hear about the church from non believers Is how Christians are all hypocrites. They seem to think becuse someone is a Christian they should be perfect. Not one of us is worthy of the gift freely given, we can't buy it , can't earn it. Your additude and self righteous is exactly what they are talking about.

Many try to act like Jesus was a push over. Over looking his whipping the money changers and flipping the tables over. Not exactly a talking to or turn the other cheek. No that was righteous Anger


Sure is easy to say what you would or would not do when your not the one in the situation and don't have 40 years worth of info. only what you believe you learned in a few minutes.

Hear is my turn to be judgmental. "I would never no mater what" Is a very sad man asking to have no respect and be walked on. Women need/want a Strong man with boundaries a leader to head the home. That is for all life wife, children, friends, co workers. What good are boundaries or even laws if there are no consequences.


Yes trying to work things out is the priority. But 2 people have free will and one wishing can't change the other. Pray your heart out GOD can fix it , BUT that free will thing comes into play and if one doesn't want to fix anything?

If it's all about GODs will and plan where does that leave free will? Is there any free will at all.

330 he didn't answer becuse those are hard questions to answer and take a lot of time, study, prayer, and self reflection to get into. At least that would be my guess. Best to give deep though and reflection vs a quick answer and have regrets. Or it's just to hard and bi passed. Either are as likely as the other

I would have to spend a lot of time trying to find answers to those questions and would still never be sure if I was 100% corect.

Can a hard heart receive Christ and His forgiveness?

26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

Years ago in our church we had a Deacon who had had a daughter that was a senior in high school and somehow she came up pregnant. Well one lady was calling for the Deacon to resign. He never, but did stay at home for a while. Well a few months later the lady that threw such a fit had a daughter that had an encounter with love out behind an old abandoned church and she had twins, lol. Double the blessing ! Can't say she had to eat her own as Prophet Savell would say, but she for sure had a lot of crow to eat ! She for sure wasn't as "hungy as a dog" for meat any more, lol.

If your dog is always hungry, it could be due to various reasons such as behavioral issues, stress, or underlying health conditions like diabetes or parasites. It's best to consult a veterinarian to determine the cause and appropriate treatment.

^ sometimes it’s just old age leading to cognitive issues

Its caused by the climate change, don't ya know,

There is help for ya tho.

Catch it.
Check it.
Control it.

Sounds like me when people ask me, "How are you?"
I answer, "She still puts up with me, so life is good."

I grew up With Baptist Grand father on one side and on the other side Was
Assembly of god. The church I was Raised in.
I know in my heart that I've tried. I would reconcile, I would get counseling. She won't~ it's done.
Thank you providence farm for your input

This sucks as always....

My first wife left me because I was a blood thirsty killer, this was 95 I think

No lawyers at all, I gave her everything in the house, my 401 k, and 800 a month

I started over completely, payed her the 800 a month for 2 years

Funny part and no lies or anything,

She got engaged 2 years later and asked me to borrow some$$

For her honeymoon, been called a fool more than once in my life

I loaned her the money, I was crying from the laughter

And I had to pay for the divorce lol

You were no fool, You just wanted Out.

Maybe brain freeze from the Ice Age were getting out of

330,

I really don't have any advise for you but one,

Be true to yourself, your the only one that matters

Take care..
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How did I get dragged into this? lol

Look, everyone knows you're not exactly my favorite moderator, Scott. Most people also know I am not the most religious. So, you're kinda asking the wrong person here. You've been somewhat evasive about who wanted the divorce, and why. Without knowing all the details, it's kinda hard to comment. In general, I tend to like to see marriages work. I think these days people are awfully quick to jump to divorce. I've never been divorced... but judging from my parents... I honestly think they both would have been happier in life had they tried harder and made it work. But every situation is different and we do not know yours. Is there someone else in your life? Someone else in hers? Sometimes people would be happier with someone else. The religion aspect really doesn't play into it for me at all..... if there is a God, there are many, many reasons I'll be burning in hades.... getting divorced would just be a minor sin in my lifetime of sin. I wouldn't even consider it in my decision-making process.

TBD I came home one day and the wife said she was leaving, I fought for a year to keep our family together. What was I supposed to do kill her?

one has to cut bait and run and protect him or herself and children.

Get back to us when your 80, until then get off your pompous butt.

As a side note I got stuck with old fashioned values and believe marriage is forever. I suspect I'll stay single unless she gets hit by a bus.