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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: saskbone] #8446780
08/01/25 04:56 PM
08/01/25 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by saskbone
Yes if I agree with you on the money changing hunting. Some land around here has changed ownership and it’s no longer open to hunting. Paid hunting will make its way here eventually and in some places probably has. I know duck and goose land is getting harder to get permission close to the American border in Saskatchewan. Maybe even paying for access I have no idea. Had a buddy and his two kids,his dad and two of the kids friends hunting ducks and geese from Iowa here last fall. Had permission from anyone I asked and they killed a bunch on my land. Future is good here but like everything it will change! [Linked Image]

Deer like this are possible if you put in enough time! But I like to be in the bush when it’s cold and rattle them in

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Nothing like seeing nice deer walk in-front of your cabin when they know it’s a safe

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Enjoy it while it last because once it's gone it's gone. And it happens faster than one thinks and it's worse than one would imagine. We r to darn close to them Counterfeit Texans here

Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8446781
08/01/25 04:58 PM
08/01/25 04:58 PM
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South Ga - Almost Florida
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My 2023 Georgia bucks...both 7mm-08 kills. No food plots, no feeders, no corn on the ground. Both killed from Summit climbers 0730 to 0830 hrs. I did have pics of both of these bucks...along with many more in same area. Never named them. No fence.

Stands placed based on big buck sign in area on suspected daytime travel ways. See Badger...I have a little buck hunting knowledge...

View a few minutes b4 I shot the 8pt...on Nov 3rd..
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View a few minutes b4 I shot the 7pt...on Nov 5th..
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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8446785
08/01/25 05:04 PM
08/01/25 05:04 PM
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First let me say this is my first post. I joined the Trapperman Forums to delve into the archives , not ever planning to comment on any subject brought up by the base members. I, however, agree with Swamp Wolf wholeheartedly. Thing change and hunting methods and hunter's access to hunting properties change as time goes by. As a kid i drove 45 miles to see a deer track. Back home I hunted wherever I wanted as it was all small game and neighbors owned the land. Now the land has been sold by the heirs and deer and turkey are abundant. Hunting permission is hard to obtain. Just the way it goes.
For the record I too am a retired Conservation Enforcement Officer. I served proudly for 28 years. Yep I got rich. My starting pay was a little over $300.00 every two weeks. The people of North Baldwin County welcomed me with open arms as poaching and night hunting were totally out of control. All of you folks that think it is an overpaid job need to stop five drunks that have just shot a deer in a scared widow woman's yard. They literally backed into her yard to load the deer. It was 2:30 am and the nearest help from another officer was at least 30 minutes away. When stopped they all wanted to fight. Finally got it sorted out without violence. It was touch and go for awhile. The officer in the next county wasn't quite as lucky. Christmas Eve 1978, Frank Stewart was killed by an individual over a 25 to 50 dollar ticket for hunting without permission. A 12 gauge shotgun behind the ear leaves a real mess.
I was fortunate never was hurt or had to hurt anyone. I did my job using my 3 F's. Fair, Friendly and Firm. I was hired to do a job and I did it. I still have people calling to see how i am doing. Some are people I arrested.
The last 11 years of my career I served as Chief of Enforcement for the Division of Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries.
One other item most of you complainers are missing is the liability of allowing someone to hunt or do most anything on private property. Most hunting clubs have liability insurance. Anyway I just want to say "nothing ever stays the same". You either adapt or quit.
For the record I have been a trapper since I was a kid. I help with our annual trapping workshop near Troy Al and really enjoy the excitement of new trappers when they see something in a trap they set.
This will probably be my only post.

Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8446794
08/01/25 05:12 PM
08/01/25 05:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Coldspring Texas
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….never owned a spy camera … never will

… they’re for cheaters lol

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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8446795
08/01/25 05:16 PM
08/01/25 05:16 PM
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welcome Timc. Good point on liability that is state dependent though. Indiana has stepped it up amd given landowners that give hunting access protections. for a while even had printed land owner slips that said no liability to then and the laws they could sign for people.

Access and methods are also different in different states.. Absolutely stuff changes..

Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Timc] #8446796
08/01/25 05:17 PM
08/01/25 05:17 PM
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South Ga - Almost Florida
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Originally Posted by Timc
First let me say this is my first post. I joined the Trapperman Forums to delve into the archives , not ever planning to comment on any subject brought up by the base members. I, however, agree with Swamp Wolf wholeheartedly. Thing change and hunting methods and hunter's access to hunting properties change as time goes by. As a kid i drove 45 miles to see a deer track. Back home I hunted wherever I wanted as it was all small game and neighbors owned the land. Now the land has been sold by the heirs and deer and turkey are abundant. Hunting permission is hard to obtain. Just the way it goes.
For the record I too am a retired Conservation Enforcement Officer. I served proudly for 28 years. Yep I got rich. My starting pay was a little over $300.00 every two weeks. The people of North Baldwin County welcomed me with open arms as poaching and night hunting were totally out of control. All of you folks that think it is an overpaid job need to stop five drunks that have just shot a deer in a scared widow woman's yard. They literally backed into her yard to load the deer. It was 2:30 am and the nearest help from another officer was at least 30 minutes away. When stopped they all wanted to fight. Finally got it sorted out without violence. It was touch and go for awhile. The officer in the next county wasn't quite as lucky. Christmas Eve 1978, Frank Stewart was killed by an individual over a 25 to 50 dollar ticket for hunting without permission. A 12 gauge shotgun behind the ear leaves a real mess.
I was fortunate never was hurt or had to hurt anyone. I did my job using my 3 F's. Fair, Friendly and Firm. I was hired to do a job and I did it. I still have people calling to see how i am doing. Some are people I arrested.
The last 11 years of my career I served as Chief of Enforcement for the Division of Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries.
One other item most of you complainers are missing is the liability of allowing someone to hunt or do most anything on private property. Most hunting clubs have liability insurance. Anyway I just want to say "nothing ever stays the same". You either adapt or quit.
For the record I have been a trapper since I was a kid. I help with our annual trapping workshop near Troy Al and really enjoy the excitement of new trappers when they see something in a trap they set.
This will probably be my only post.

Don't be a stranger Chief!

Most of the GW gouging on here is meant in good fun. There are some that have hidden molestations in their minds that they blame on a game warden. But, most are supportive. I actually enjoy the back & forth.

Been retired since June 2022 (after 27 years). My career mirrors your's, except I never made it any higher than field sergeant (which was high enough for me). I too was assigned to an area that was lawless, even the government officials here were corrupt and many were sent to prison. I am still getting calls for service or when is next hu er or boater ed class and have to tell them Im retired.

There are a couple other retired GWs on Tman. Might even be an active duty one....not sure.

I did a beaver trapping demo at the Southeastern NTA up in northern Alabama a few years ago.....west of Ft Payne. Maybe we'll meet one day.

Stay in touch!


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Never Half-Arse Anything!

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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8446797
08/01/25 05:18 PM
08/01/25 05:18 PM
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Coldspring Texas
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…. Using a deer spy camera is along the lines of a dude competing in women’s sports


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Savell] #8446798
08/01/25 05:20 PM
08/01/25 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Savell
…. Using a deer spy camera is along the lines of a dude competing in women’s sports


Ahh...you're just too cheap to buy a deer camera to get a pic of a buck that some yuppy dude from Houston will end up killin'.

I get it.


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8446799
08/01/25 05:21 PM
08/01/25 05:21 PM
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Marion Kansas
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What's up with all the name calling???
If ones opinion isnt the same as urs ur a whiner??? To me when it gets to name calling you have already lost, unless it comes to Savell. grin

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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8446801
08/01/25 05:25 PM
08/01/25 05:25 PM
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Coldspring Texas
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Savell
…. Using a deer spy camera is along the lines of a dude competing in women’s sports


Ahh...you're just too cheap to buy a deer camera to get a pic of a buck that some yuppy dude from Houston will end up killin'.

I get it.


…. lol I was dragging one of the yuppies bucks out one time … he showed me pictures of the buck and me on his phone …. Was a little upset I had killed “his” deer lol

…. I just told him all these deer live in my zip code not yours lmao


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8446803
08/01/25 05:27 PM
08/01/25 05:27 PM
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I think Being a Game warrden would be fun. Putting on the hunter Ed classes,Basic public education, Getting involved with things like banding ducks, and being able to learn more about what's going on with new studies. Locking up poachers, trespassers has its draw. After all there is mor to the job than 12 year olds tickets for a fish to small. wink

But Being out with limited to no back up, high neer 100% encounters are armed people, And we'll the pay is or was at least not going to go to far.

Some places probably do better screening for personality type in the hiring process Than what have been around here.

Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8446805
08/01/25 05:31 PM
08/01/25 05:31 PM
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Coldspring Texas
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… very few deer hunters left … mainly just a bunch of wildlife photographers and recreational farmers lol


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8446809
08/01/25 05:39 PM
08/01/25 05:39 PM
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… hey Swamp …. There’s a crazy millionaire out here that owns 12 miles of lakefront and has only let one family hunt it since the 70’s …. Well ol Jesse Henry is buddies with that family and last year he was the only outsider ever let in there … here’s what he and and his buddy did one weekend

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… his buddy was in the better spot lol

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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Providence Farm] #8446811
08/01/25 05:39 PM
08/01/25 05:39 PM
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South Ga - Almost Florida
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
I think Being a Game warrden would be fun. Putting on the hunter Ed classes,Basic public education, Getting involved with things like banding ducks, and being able to learn more about what's going on with new studies. Locking up poachers, trespassers has its draw. After all there is mor to the job than 12 year olds tickets for a fish to small. wink

But Being out with limited to no back up, high neer 100% encounters are armed people, And we'll the pay is or was at least not going to go to far.

Some places probably do better screening for personality type in the hiring process Than what have been around here.




The job of GW is the best job in this Country. But the politics.....uughh!

I fought back politics my entire career. I tried to shield that from the officer's that I supervised, but it was hard to do.


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Savell] #8446812
08/01/25 05:40 PM
08/01/25 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Savell
… hey Swamp …. There’s a crazy millionaire out here that owns 12 miles of lakefront and has only let one family hunt it since the 70’s …. Well ol Jesse Henry is buddies with that family and last year he was the only outsider ever let in there … here’s what he and and his buddy did one weekend

[Linked Image]

… his buddy was in the better spot lol

[Linked Image]

I like!!!


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Savell] #8446823
08/01/25 05:57 PM
08/01/25 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Savell
… very few deer hunters left … mainly just a bunch of wildlife photographers and recreational farmers lol



Add a guide and hunter transportation taxi and you got me. Also a Yankee by birth not choice.

Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8446824
08/01/25 05:59 PM
08/01/25 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Timc
First let me say this is my first post. I joined the Trapperman Forums to delve into the archives , not ever planning to comment on any subject brought up by the base members. I, however, agree with Swamp Wolf wholeheartedly. Thing change and hunting methods and hunter's access to hunting properties change as time goes by. As a kid i drove 45 miles to see a deer track. Back home I hunted wherever I wanted as it was all small game and neighbors owned the land. Now the land has been sold by the heirs and deer and turkey are abundant. Hunting permission is hard to obtain. Just the way it goes.
For the record I too am a retired Conservation Enforcement Officer. I served proudly for 28 years. Yep I got rich. My starting pay was a little over $300.00 every two weeks. The people of North Baldwin County welcomed me with open arms as poaching and night hunting were totally out of control. All of you folks that think it is an overpaid job need to stop five drunks that have just shot a deer in a scared widow woman's yard. They literally backed into her yard to load the deer. It was 2:30 am and the nearest help from another officer was at least 30 minutes away. When stopped they all wanted to fight. Finally got it sorted out without violence. It was touch and go for awhile. The officer in the next county wasn't quite as lucky. Christmas Eve 1978, Frank Stewart was killed by an individual over a 25 to 50 dollar ticket for hunting without permission. A 12 gauge shotgun behind the ear leaves a real mess.
I was fortunate never was hurt or had to hurt anyone. I did my job using my 3 F's. Fair, Friendly and Firm. I was hired to do a job and I did it. I still have people calling to see how i am doing. Some are people I arrested.
The last 11 years of my career I served as Chief of Enforcement for the Division of Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries.
One other item most of you complainers are missing is the liability of allowing someone to hunt or do most anything on private property. Most hunting clubs have liability insurance. Anyway I just want to say "nothing ever stays the same". You either adapt or quit.
For the record I have been a trapper since I was a kid. I help with our annual trapping workshop near Troy Al and really enjoy the excitement of new trappers when they see something in a trap they set.
This will probably be my only post.

Don't be a stranger Chief!

Most of the GW gouging on here is meant in good fun. There are some that have hidden molestations in their minds that they blame on a game warden. But, most are supportive. I actually enjoy the back & forth.

Been retired since June 2022 (after 27 years). My career mirrors your's, except I never made it any higher than field sergeant (which was high enough for me). I too was assigned to an area that was lawless, even the government officials here were corrupt and many were sent to prison. I am still getting calls for service or when is next hu er or boater ed class and have to tell them Im retired.

There are a couple other retired GWs on Tman. Might even be an active duty one....not sure.

I did a beaver trapping demo at the Southeastern NTA up in northern Alabama a few years ago.....west of Ft Payne. Maybe we'll meet one day.

Stay in touch!


Stan Steele is on here from time to time. He is a retired game cop from Oregon. A trapper all his life he has been extremely active in trying to keep the antis from shutting down trapping here. He sure kept Newhouse 114 and me in line during our early years of trapping. We jokingly referred to him as Sneed, the Pat McManus game warden. Lately he and I did a State Police in service training on trapping in Oregon. Used to be kind of intimidated by the guy and now we're buds!

Last edited by beaverpeeler; 08/01/25 06:03 PM.

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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8446827
08/01/25 06:02 PM
08/01/25 06:02 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Coldspring Texas
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…. Yeah Uncle Swamp I can’t believe that kid didn’t get buck fevered on that one


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8446829
08/01/25 06:05 PM
08/01/25 06:05 PM
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Oregon
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Oregon
Thanks goodness my farm has more than enough venison to keep me occupied. Personally I could never pay for access. Just wouldn't feel right...but to each their own. Blessed that 53% of my state is public land.


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8446834
08/01/25 06:17 PM
08/01/25 06:17 PM
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Coldspring Texas
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… anyone that uses deer spy cameras sits down to pee


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