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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8447054
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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8447055
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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8447056
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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8447057
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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: 52Carl] #8447065
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Originally Posted by Nessmuck
How about fishing....now there's a lot of money spent on boats..
Motors ...rods ,& Reels...fuel to and from ... tackle...

Just to catch a trout and release it....lol

Of course I could have gone to the Grocery store and bought

Wild trout...and invested that saved money in the stock market

And been a millionaire by now..


Is it true what I heard? The vast majority of fly fishermen only do it because they suck at golf? lol

Not sure about fly fishermen, but I know for a fact that so called meat hunters are simply not good at killing mature bucks....lol....so, they became professed meat hunters.


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8447073
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Swamp, I assume you are putting me in the “complainers” group. And I suppose you are correct. If it helps my standing in your assessment, instead of hunting myself I took a buddy who had never killed a turkey to my spot, and got him his first. Then, since that was opening day, I took a friend’s daughter who was hunting under a youth tag and got her first one also a few days later. Actually I just picked the spots and gave them some calling lessons, then let them use my decoys and pitched a blind next to them and enjoyed the show. Indiana law does not allow me to call for someone else (even if I do not have a gun) without a tag.
But yeah, I am standing by my statement that the state can keep “their” overgrown sparrow for $53 or $56 or whatever it was. Turkeys just aren’t that big of deal to me, so that’s my choice. I would go $20, but they aren’t taking bids. You are correct that another big bird just is not important enough to me. And so I am a complainer, I will admit it. But not complaining too much, because again, another turkey is not terribly important to me. I spend a lot of time in the wild places, and turkey hunting just doesn’t add much percentage wise.
I did really enjoy watching the buddy and the young lady get their birds though, more than I would have enjoyed blasting one myself, and the best part, it was next to free (i hunt private land, no lease or fee, spoiled for life I am…)
I do hear what you are saying, people pay big $ for extra curricular activities all the time, but in my case the turkey wasn’t worth the $56 they are charging now. Maybe it is a clue to how important shooting another one is to me that I refer to them as overgrown sparrows. No shade to those who love turkeys, just not a huge deal to me.

Story time, Vinke quit reading a while ago but some may find it funny..
Was at the Primitive Archery National Shoot in Marshall MI a couple decades ago and the subject of turkeys came up in camp. Norm, an avid turkey hunter who used flintlocks he made himself to chase them, was talking about how smart they are, and another buddy looked him dead in the eye and said “dumbest animal in the woods!”. Norm gave him the stink eye, and the guy said “I will give you an example! You are walking in the woods with your buddy, and hear what sounds like a particularly attractive lady at the top of the hill calling out ‘oh boys, I am soooooo in love with you, come up here and show me some lovin’ boys!!! Come on what are you boys waiting for, I’m right here!’. Now you may be good friends, but some things are worth competing for so you both run up that hill elbowing each other to get there first. Your buddy is faster and gets there first…. BOOM, he gets his head blown off. You run away in terror but you get halfway down the hill, and you hear that same attractive sounding lady at the top of hill saying “Im still here, and your buddy is flopping like a weirdo, come back, I am all yours now big boy. What would you do? Because I doubled on turkeys just like that last season!
Norm joined everyone in a good laugh, he didn’t mind losing that argument.

Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8447074
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Good for you, nice come back!
I said you sound like a city slicker, I didn't call you one.
I gave you an example of city people owning land , and thinking they can do as they please on other peoples property.
Another example is hunt clubs, they lease property, and the members are supposed to ask permission to hunt on a leased farmers land.
Many reasons for that, as you may know.
It was always funny that I worked most of my life on that farm, and even the grandkids know I have permission to hunt when ever .
That farmer told me that I don't have to ask, but that I was the only one that ever did.
Those members tore up the lane driving on it when raining, rutted up the lane so bad, it was hard to drive in it.
They decided to make a new lane in the field.
That's the city slickers that ruin it for everyone.
The modern rack hunters of today.
Most farm people hunted for the meat, and helped keep the population in check.
City slickers only want the huge racks, and could care less how they get them.
I'm sure you've seen how they leave a camp site, full of empty cans and trash.
Just like they go off roading and tear up the hill sides just for fun.
Lost a lot of great camping sites in a couple states , because of that crap.
The closer you get to civilization , the less civil people become.


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8447082
08/02/25 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Good for you, nice come back!
I said you sound like a city slicker, I didn't call you one.
I gave you an example of city people owning land , and thinking they can do as they please on other peoples property.
Another example is hunt clubs, they lease property, and the members are supposed to ask permission to hunt on a leased farmers land.
Many reasons for that, as you may know.
It was always funny that I worked most of my life on that farm, and even the grandkids know I have permission to hunt when ever .
That farmer told me that I don't have to ask, but that I was the only one that ever did.
Those members tore up the lane driving on it when raining, rutted up the lane so bad, it was hard to drive in it.
They decided to make a new lane in the field.
That's the city slickers that ruin it for everyone.
The modern rack hunters of today.
Most farm people hunted for the meat, and helped keep the population in check.
City slickers only want the huge racks, and could care less how they get them.
I'm sure you've seen how they leave a camp site, full of empty cans and trash.
Just like they go off roading and tear up the hill sides just for fun.
Lost a lot of great camping sites in a couple states , because of that crap.
The closer you get to civilization , the less civil people become.

You are correct. Ive seen all that and more from people. Good folks willing to do things right are sorta rare, unfortunately.

Antlers have caused bad relations and dumb reactions. Even family members have had bad falling outs over deer. I feel everyone should do their part and there should be no animosity. But, that rarely happens. I have always been told that 10% of folks that hunt on a property do 100% of the work. I have found that to be mostly true....in most cases.

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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: loosanarrow] #8447086
08/02/25 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by loosanarrow
Swamp, I assume you are putting me in the “complainers” group. And I suppose you are correct. If it helps my standing in your assessment, instead of hunting myself I took a buddy who had never killed a turkey to my spot, and got him his first. Then, since that was opening day, I took a friend’s daughter who was hunting under a youth tag and got her first one also a few days later. Actually I just picked the spots and gave them some calling lessons, then let them use my decoys and pitched a blind next to them and enjoyed the show. Indiana law does not allow me to call for someone else (even if I do not have a gun) without a tag.
But yeah, I am standing by my statement that the state can keep “their” overgrown sparrow for $53 or $56 or whatever it was. Turkeys just aren’t that big of deal to me, so that’s my choice. I would go $20, but they aren’t taking bids. You are correct that another big bird just is not important enough to me. And so I am a complainer, I will admit it. But not complaining too much, because again, another turkey is not terribly important to me. I spend a lot of time in the wild places, and turkey hunting just doesn’t add much percentage wise.
I did really enjoy watching the buddy and the young lady get their birds though, more than I would have enjoyed blasting one myself, and the best part, it was next to free (i hunt private land, no lease or fee, spoiled for life I am…)
I do hear what you are saying, people pay big $ for extra curricular activities all the time, but in my case the turkey wasn’t worth the $56 they are charging now. Maybe it is a clue to how important shooting another one is to me that I refer to them as overgrown sparrows. No shade to those who love turkeys, just not a huge deal to me.

Story time, Vinke quit reading a while ago but some may find it funny..
Was at the Primitive Archery National Shoot in Marshall MI a couple decades ago and the subject of turkeys came up in camp. Norm, an avid turkey hunter who used flintlocks he made himself to chase them, was talking about how smart they are, and another buddy looked him dead in the eye and said “dumbest animal in the woods!”. Norm gave him the stink eye, and the guy said “I will give you an example! You are walking in the woods with your buddy, and hear what sounds like a particularly attractive lady at the top of the hill calling out ‘oh boys, I am soooooo in love with you, come up here and show me some lovin’ boys!!! Come on what are you boys waiting for, I’m right here!’. Now you may be good friends, but some things are worth competing for so you both run up that hill elbowing each other to get there first. Your buddy is faster and gets there first…. BOOM, he gets his head blown off. You run away in terror but you get halfway down the hill, and you hear that same attractive sounding lady at the top of hill saying “Im still here, and your buddy is flopping like a weirdo, come back, I am all yours now big boy. What would you do? Because I doubled on turkeys just like that last season!
Norm joined everyone in a good laugh, he didn’t mind losing that argument.

I agree $56 for a resident turkey tag is a bit high. There nothing a hunter can do if he don't like the license prices but what you did and just don't hunt.

Unfortunately, I cant do that. Deer hunting in the fall & winter and spring gobbler hunting is all I do (other than a little trapping, but that's all commercial work now for me). So, no matter the license costs...I'm buying.

I dont have any other hobbies or past times...I'm a boring old dude.....don't fish but a few times a year, dont give a crap about any sports that involve a ball, a car, or anything else. I don't drink, so I don't go to bars. My kids are grown...don't have any grandkids. All my extra-curricular activities are deer & turkey related....lol

No worries about your standing with me. You one of, if not the best nuisance beaver trapper on Tman. If I'm ever at a convention and you're doing a demo...I won't miss your demo!


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8447090
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Spent a couple hours with the grandson hunting slugs. Didn’t cost much, aside from the salt used. Great time for all!

Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: mad_mike] #8447092
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Originally Posted by mad_mike
Spent a couple hours with the grandson hunting slugs. Didn’t cost much, aside from the salt used. Great time for all!

What do yall do with them? Fish bait?


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8447096
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Slugs? I'm assuming what we call leaches?

I have little use for those nasty things. Seen em attached to beaver before and turtles.


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Yes sir] #8447100
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
$$$ has severely changed the activity of hunting in my part of the world and not for the better is my only point. And I seriously doubt anyone that truly loves hunting and has lived through the changes I've seen would disagree with me. If that's whining than so be it but that's just my opinion based off my experience. Is it easier to harvest a big deer today in my area than it was 30 years ago? Yes if u can get on ground to hunt but so much of all the other experiences of hunting are lost because of the Dollar and what it brings to hunting.


This right here is my point. Every area is different. I'll tell you flat out in the upper midwest years ago you could get permission on a lot of places by asking the landowner. Up here a handshake and a thank you went further than it does down south evidently. Of course it didn't hurt that my Dad also helped one of the landowners kids out of trouble a few times. I don't hunt that property anymore as it's leased out by the owners other son. It happens so you deal with it. Ironically where I hunt joins that property and I have no ill will towards him and talk to him when I see him. The other farm I'm referring to that joins on the other side of the property I hunt was a relative of my Dads. It was sold so that's also done with. I talk to the current landowner a lot during the fall as he's a hunter. Of course I park right next to his land at the parking area by the road so I see him quite often. We get along great. You see up here sometimes when you're liked that can go aways with people and it's kind of nice. Don't act like a jack arse it gets you farther.

Now to the land where I hunt. What I didn't say before and it really doesn't matter but maybe it'll shed a little light on things to folks with common sense, others it'll sail over their head. I've hunted that area all my life, it's in the middle of nowhere in between 2 dead end roads. The bottom end where I hunt is pretty secluded. I've found chains cut on the gates before which I closed and told the landowner about. I've fixed holes in the fence all be it temporary fixes but it kept the cattle in. I've caught people in there who shouldn't be and reported it to the landowner. The landowner knows if I see something out of place I let them know. I've dragged fallen branches off fences and lifted the wires back up several times securing it with whatever old wire I can find. Here's something else, there's a memorial marker for my Dad on a log down on that property. He was cremated and his ashes were spread there. He grew up in an old cabin about 1/2 mile from the property I hunt. As a kid he hunted and trapped that area. That is where he wanted to be when he died. I'm lucky I can hunt on that land yet and I know it. It may change in the future and I can't predict that but what I can do is be respectful, not leave trash around and also I don't drive on their property. I don't want the combinations to the locks so I can't be blamed for something I didn't do. I don't own a side by side so I don't need to worry about it.

Some people haven't got a clue but it doesn't stop them from spewing a bunch of drivel fueled in large part by jealousy.

To Yes sir and a whole bunch of others from the midwest you know what I'm talking about when asking permission quite often got you on ground to hunt, fish or trap. It was a far simpler/better time and a lot different than now. Nobody gave a crap about shooting a Booner or P/Y and most didn't know what that meant either. That was me too.

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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by mad_mike
Spent a couple hours with the grandson hunting slugs. Didn’t cost much, aside from the salt used. Great time for all!

What do yall do with them? Fish bait?


Nah, melt them for giggles.

Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8447102
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Slugs? I'm assuming what we call leaches?

I have little use for those nasty things. Seen em attached to beaver before and turtles.



Nope, they are on dry land. Banana Slugs get quite large, as does the slime puddle after salting. Ammonia in a squirt bottle is pretty sporting also.

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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Slugs? I'm assuming what we call leaches?

I have little use for those nasty things. Seen em attached to beaver before and turtles.



…. This is what they look like … grandma would send you with a can of mortan salt to hunt them lol

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Snail w/o a shell?

Not common down here in my part of the deep South.

Don't know that I've ever seen one without a shell. And it was less than an inch long.

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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8447105
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You'd have to be a professional slug hunter to find any number of those down here.


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Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8447107
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This entire thread is why all the “outdoor channels” suck. There are a million things to hunt, trap, fish, but all they wanna show are whispering deer hunters from paid land in an elevated blind. I pay 153 bucks for an out of state turkey tag (and I get 2) every year because I love the land and I toss a case of beer or a bottle of whiskey at the landowners and they are happy as (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). If I deer hunted, I could find a private spot locally (been offered-dont deer hunt) or just hunt public. For EVERYTHING else, I get a combo of both public and private. I dont feel like Im getting squeezed out of hunting anytime soon.

Re: Hunting is getting expensive [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8447108
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Expensive no kidding ,it's over, done with,get over it. Figure out a way..
But it's all up to you how.
I moved to alaska, took different jobs for carrots (hunting opportunities).totally paid off.
The trips and time involved would of been millions if guided

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While the pros are assembled.

What is up with a deer severe drooling,
frothing at the mouth?
The same one did it last year.





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