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They still don't get it........ #8447241
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...tionwide-voter-roll-investigation-ahead/

Hard to tell if Republican leadership is really this dense.......or if there is a reason they won't tackle problem head on. At any rate, if they want to eliminate about 99% of the election fraud all they need to do is implement an outright ban on vote by mail for federal elections. Require voters to show up in person with valid photo ID, then mark up a pre-printed paper ballot with serial number on it. Do that and all the rest of the nonsense goes away. Vote by mail had to have been designed with election fraud in mind. None of the stuff they are looking at would matter if not for vote by mail.

All the fake voter registrations, all the dead people voting, all the illegals voting, all the ballot harvesting, all the problems with late vote counting......none of it matters once you eliminate vote by mail.


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Re: They still don't get it........ [Re: HayDay] #8447256
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Pretty simple, they don’t wanna fix it completely, they might need it too.

Re: They still don't get it........ [Re: HayDay] #8447262
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Looks like a huge step in the right direction to me....

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Baby steps.......like hunting buffalo with a BB gun.


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Re: They still don't get it........ [Re: HayDay] #8447272
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Every ballot has to have a name that is on the registered voter rolls. Doesn't matter if its mail in, dropped in a box, or shows up in a white van at 2:30 am...

HayDay, I do agree with what you stated but mail in is just one part of the problem...

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Re: They still don't get it........ [Re: HayDay] #8447276
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Both thumb prints required on every ballot, like, a lot of other countries require, would make a difference too. Anyone missing thumbs could get a waiver.

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Re: They still don't get it........ [Re: HayDay] #8447325
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After what they did to Trump in 2020......when at midnight on election night he was up by 2M votes in the 6 remaining states to be called. He went on to lose by a combined 200,000 votes in all 6 states combined, and it didn't matter how much he was ahead, the lead was made up and overcome. After that, I began taking a much closer look at every allegation of election fraud and almost 100% of the time it had something to do with vote by mail ballots. There is zero, zip, nada election security with mail in ballots. Once a ballot goes out, all they know is it came back. They don't even know if the name they sent a ballot to is even a real person, let alone who marked it up and returned it. Only security at all is the signature and those are routinely ignored. In AZ 2022, the counted ballots returned with no signature. In my opinion what happened in AZ 2022 was as blatant as it gets.

So since there is no security, there is no validity to it. CA does not run an election. They run a pre-ordained outcome election event. In two CA US House districts in 2024 they were still finding and counting ballots for 4 weeks after election was over......both Republican held house seats. Once the Dem pulled ahead, they quit counting and called it........flipped two seats doing so. No way to run an election. 100% vote by mail with ballot harvesting allowed. AZ, NV and CO about as bad.

Purging fake voters is nibbling around the edge of the cracker. They can be replaced. Almost all the stunts they pull get cancelled out when a live person has to show up to a polling place with valid ID.

A better solution to vote by mail is early voting. Our county allows you to walk in to court house as much as 2 weeks or so........and you can vote there same as you would in polling place on election day. Same secure process.


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This is going to upset you folks but I don’t care.

What about people away from home on Election Day - say the thousands of service men and women stationed overseas. What about folks in hospitals and rehab centers that aren’t physically able to get to the polls on Election Day. Even with early in person voting, those 2 groups of legitimate, eligible voters can’t vote. How is that fair.

Let the rebuttal begin,


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Re: They still don't get it........ [Re: wissmiss] #8447333
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
This is going to upset you folks but I don’t care.

What about people away from home on Election Day - say the thousands of service men and women stationed overseas. What about folks in hospitals and rehab centers that aren’t physically able to get to the polls on Election Day. Even with early in person voting, those 2 groups of legitimate, eligible voters can’t vote. How is that fair.

Let the rebuttal begin,

There are people who are eligible for mail in ballet's and you just described them

What else you got Miss high and mighty grin

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They're called absentee ballots, they're registered to the voter and legit...it's the non legit mail ins that's a problem....

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I didn’t realize you considered absentee ballots different than mail in ballots. After all, absentee ballots are “mailed in”. Maybe the OP should have specified.

I love starting the weekend off with a good “fight”. LOL


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Originally Posted by wissmiss
This is going to upset you folks but I don’t care.

What about people away from home on Election Day - say the thousands of service men and women stationed overseas. What about folks in hospitals and rehab centers that aren’t physically able to get to the polls on Election Day. Even with early in person voting, those 2 groups of legitimate, eligible voters can’t vote. How is that fair.

Let the rebuttal begin,


There is already a process in place for that and it ain't mass mailing of blank ballots. Varies by state but it basically boils down to the voter upon realizing that they will be unable to go to the polls can contact their county voter registar to obtain an absentee ballot. Varies by state but this often includes and affadavit affirming the absence signed or affirmed by the voter. There will be a clearly posted deadline for this to happen. Upon receiving the ballot the voter will fill it out and return it to the registar. This will inculde an affadavit affirmed by the voter that he/she was inded the eligible voter that voted and that all laws were followed. There will be a deadline for the ballot to be returned.

Rather simple and spelled out by law.


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Originally Posted by wissmiss
I didn’t realize you considered absentee ballots different than mail in ballots. After all, absentee ballots are “mailed in”. Maybe the OP should have specified.

I love starting the weekend off with a good “fight”. LOL

Seems you got knocked out when they rang the bell. grin

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BTW these absentee ballots often have multiple verification steps. Affadavits being one, home address and DL# being another and finally a signature match as the voter's signature should be on file.

However, the fly in the ointment is that due to the sanctity of the ballot box none of these verifying IDs can appear of the ballot itself and are on the envelope containing the ballot.

In practice, and the weak point, there must be a signature/ID match made and confirmed before the envelope containing the ballot is even accepted and opened because once the the ballot enters the count there are no ways to determine wheter a ballot was cast legitimately by a valid voter.

By flooding the zone with mail in ballots, which technically operate similar to absentee, the time and ability to perform due diligence on each and every signature goes out the window. This has led to recruitment of mass numbers of poorly trained and in many times partisan ballot handlers in the tally process.


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Yes, the legit absentee ballots are not the issue, as long as they are legit. But for such a small group, may not matter or affect outcome.

People who have looked at voter rolls have found thousands and thousand of people registered at empty lots, McDonalds, Walmart, 15th floor of a 10 story building, etc. Yet ballots sent to them that cannot be delivered as there is no mailbox to deliver to.......so end up back at post office in a dead letter sack, which then goes missing........and then they vote. Should come as no surprise, but most of this takes place in the six swing states. In that documentary 2,000 mules, where did they get all those ballots?

None of that possible if that person who doesn't exist has to show up in person with valid ID to vote.


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IMO, but mail in ballots should be illegal, period. Get your tail up and go to the polls. If you're too sorry lazy to do that, then you got no business deciding for the rest of us that do care enough to vote.

Absentee absolutely should remain with a strong caveat that the absence is legitimate and of a serious nature. Caught lying then ten years, period.

If need be make election day a state/national holiday. If need be make every elementery school a polling place.


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Originally Posted by HayDay
Yes, the legit absentee ballots are not the issue, as long as they are legit. But for such a small group, may not matter or affect outcome.

People who have looked at voter rolls have found thousands and thousand of people registered at empty lots, McDonalds, Walmart, 15th floor of a 10 story building, etc. Yet ballots sent to them that cannot be delivered as there is no mailbox to deliver to.......so end up back at post office in a dead letter sack, which then goes missing........and then they vote. Should come as no surprise, but most of this takes place in the six swing states. In that documentary 2,000 mules, where did they get all those ballots?

None of that possible if that person who doesn't exist has to show up in person with valid ID to vote.


Exactly why mail in should be illegal. There needs to some flag in the system that requires a verified voter initiating every ballot with solid chain of custody from A to Z.


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Re: They still don't get it........ [Re: HayDay] #8447360
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Absentee ballots have been legal American law for years. I figured you would have known that, Nancy.

That's a whole different subject than what is trying to be pushed the past four years to get illegal aliens , deceased , and others not qualified to cast illegal votes to push aside Americans who want constitutional law to be adhered to.

There are many active military , and others who qualify, that sent in Absentee ballots across the state, every year. As a judge appointed for election days, I have seen this first hand. It is years old and works well.


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Are people still buying into the illusion they are not both owned by the same interests and the system is designed to make you believe you have a voice and say in the government?


Just look at the pro gun Republicans. They only put pro gun stuff forward when they know it won't pass or they chose not to push it. when they know it won't pass the push it so they can say we'll we third but those dems stoped us. Maybe next time we can get it.

If you don't think you have a say in the system you get revolt and revolution. To avoid this they play the game we are watching.




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