No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Welder for a beginner? #8447545
08/02/25 09:06 PM
08/02/25 09:06 PM
Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
B
Big Sam Online content OP
trapper
Big Sam  Online Content OP
trapper
B

Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
Hello all. I'm wanting to get into welding. I haven't welded since highschool, and then it was just oxygen and acetylene. All I'm really wanting to do is be able to work on traps and build stakes. So what is a reasonable welder to learn on that will do what I need? I'm open to any and all opinions.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8447550
08/02/25 09:15 PM
08/02/25 09:15 PM
Joined: Mar 2023
WI
WI Outdoors Offline
trapper
WI Outdoors  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2023
WI
Small buzz box.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8447555
08/02/25 09:25 PM
08/02/25 09:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2019
North central Iowa
B
Bob_Iowa Offline
trapper
Bob_Iowa  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Jan 2019
North central Iowa
Wire I’d recommend gas but then the cleaning begins, so flux core is an option, or stick with oxygen and acetylene, stick welding on traps takes a lot of practice to not burn through the base metal.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8447570
08/02/25 10:08 PM
08/02/25 10:08 PM
Joined: Sep 2013
AK
F
FL cracker in AK Offline
trapper
FL cracker in AK  Offline
trapper
F

Joined: Sep 2013
AK
My Millermatic 211 has been an excellent machine, doesn't break the bank.


Psalm 34:6
Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8447577
08/02/25 10:27 PM
08/02/25 10:27 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Central, SD
Law Dog Online content
trapper
Law Dog  Online Content
trapper

Joined: Dec 2010
Central, SD
Mig with the gas shield it’s a cleaner weld that’s what I started with. Finding a bottle is the trick I bought mine outright to avoid the contract BS not sure how the smaller bottles work in your area.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8447611
08/02/25 11:45 PM
08/02/25 11:45 PM
Joined: Jun 2010
Iowa
~ADC~ Offline
The Count
~ADC~  Offline
The Count

Joined: Jun 2010
Iowa
Buy a name brand so you can get parts for it. Hobart gives the most bang for your money IMO. Wire feed welder with gas. You'll soon find many more uses for it when you have a decent machine. I'm far from rich but I quit buying cheap guns and cheap tools years ago and don't regret it at all.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8447765
Yesterday at 10:11 AM
Yesterday at 10:11 AM
Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
B
Big Sam Online content OP
trapper
Big Sam  Online Content OP
trapper
B

Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
Thank you all for the information.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: ~ADC~] #8447768
Yesterday at 10:16 AM
Yesterday at 10:16 AM
Joined: Apr 2024
W Mich
L
Leroy Bob Online content
trapper
Leroy Bob  Online Content
trapper
L

Joined: Apr 2024
W Mich
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Buy a name brand so you can get parts for it. Hobart gives the most bang for your money IMO. Wire feed welder with gas. You'll soon find many more uses for it when you have a decent machine. I'm far from rich but I quit buying cheap guns and cheap tools years ago and don't regret it at all.


A boss once told me, “buy once, cry once” and it’s stuck with me forever

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8447963
Yesterday at 04:25 PM
Yesterday at 04:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2009
Hill City,Mn.
R
Rally Offline
trapper
Rally  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Feb 2009
Hill City,Mn.
You can get by with the smaller 85-100 amp wire feeds with flux core wire, but there is a learning curve and alot of cleaning, did it for years. When you eventually get a quality welder, and use it, your next likely target will be that little welder, for all the headaches it caused you! lol


Keep your boots dry
Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: ~ADC~] #8447972
Yesterday at 04:41 PM
Yesterday at 04:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2023
WI
WI Outdoors Offline
trapper
WI Outdoors  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2023
WI
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Buy a name brand so you can get parts for it. Hobart gives the most bang for your money IMO. Wire feed welder with gas. You'll soon find many more uses for it when you have a decent machine. I'm far from rich but I quit buying cheap guns and cheap tools years ago and don't regret it at all.

I agree Hobart is good to start with.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8447990
Yesterday at 05:25 PM
Yesterday at 05:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
2A Sanctuaries-W. OK & N. NM
Blaine County Offline
trapper
Blaine County  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2010
2A Sanctuaries-W. OK & N. NM
Hobart vote here. Mig.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8447995
Yesterday at 05:37 PM
Yesterday at 05:37 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Piney va. soon be 19
cotton Offline
trapper
cotton  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Piney va. soon be 19
Like my Hobart flux core


John 3/16

ifin your gonna be dumb ya gotta be tough
VTA life member

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8447999
Yesterday at 05:40 PM
Yesterday at 05:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2023
WI
WI Outdoors Offline
trapper
WI Outdoors  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2023
WI
Gmaw is the easiest process to learn.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Rally] #8448001
Yesterday at 05:40 PM
Yesterday at 05:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Midland, MI.
Seldom Offline
trapper
Seldom  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2007
Midland, MI.
Originally Posted by Rally
You can get by with the smaller 85-100 amp wire feeds with flux core wire, but there is a learning curve and alot of cleaning, did it for years. When you eventually get a quality welder, and use it, your next likely target will be that little welder, for all the headaches it caused you! lol

THIS^^^


"A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!"
Youtube Channel- SeldomFales
Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: FL cracker in AK] #8448053
Yesterday at 07:19 PM
Yesterday at 07:19 PM
Joined: Aug 2013
SE Minnesota
D
dustytinner Offline
trapper
dustytinner  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Aug 2013
SE Minnesota
Originally Posted by FL cracker in AK
My Millermatic 211 has been an excellent machine, doesn't break the bank.


X2
Once you learn to weld DON'T tell anyone!! You'll have friends you didn't know you had! But... your welding won't end with just traps.


Life member Minnesota Trappers Association
FTA,Sportsmen's Alliance
Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8448059
Yesterday at 07:21 PM
Yesterday at 07:21 PM
Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
B
Big Sam Online content OP
trapper
Big Sam  Online Content OP
trapper
B

Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
Thank you all for adding on.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8448062
Yesterday at 07:25 PM
Yesterday at 07:25 PM
Joined: Jun 2010
Iowa
~ADC~ Offline
The Count
~ADC~  Offline
The Count

Joined: Jun 2010
Iowa
More specifically the Hobart Handler 140 is what I'd recommend. It's not super expensive and welds nice with some 75/25 mix gas. Get an auto darkening helmet to go with it. That's my best advice. https://www.farmandfleet.com/produc...vVMzyf2DfuANGorU5TPePUZ-h5BoChOcQAvD_BwE

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8448065
Yesterday at 07:28 PM
Yesterday at 07:28 PM
Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
B
Big Sam Online content OP
trapper
Big Sam  Online Content OP
trapper
B

Joined: Aug 2012
Blackduck Minnesota
Thank you for the link ADC.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8448178
Yesterday at 10:02 PM
Yesterday at 10:02 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
SW Pa
W
wr otis Offline
trapper
wr otis  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jun 2008
SW Pa
Welded a lot of trapping stuff with lincoln stick welder.

I have a hobart like that also.

If you're going to mig parts, they need to be clean bare metal. Stick you can tolerate some rust.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8448254
10 hours ago
10 hours ago
Joined: Aug 2018
Pennsylvania
The hammer Offline
trapper
The hammer  Offline
trapper

Joined: Aug 2018
Pennsylvania
If you’re just looking for a decent hobby mig welder. Titanium 170 from harbor freight set up with a bottle is a nice machine for the price and can handle any trapping related project or even some larger welding projects. I use a miller 211 daily in my shop but that’s going to set you back 3x the cost of harbor freight welder or twice the cost of some smaller Hobart machines. I wanted a welder for just doing trap mods in my basement while at home on the weekends. So I figured it was a good time to give one of the titanium harbor freight welders a try. I picked up the 170 mig hooked it up to a bottle and 220 for under a grand. Been using it every weekend for hrs on end welding everything from trap mods to heavy duty drags with no complaints welds great highly impressed with it. Now if any of my millers was sitting there next to it would I use it over any of them no but for a hobby welder I’d give it a solid 8 out 10 review for home hobbyist welder.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: wr otis] #8448257
10 hours ago
10 hours ago
Joined: Mar 2023
WI
WI Outdoors Offline
trapper
WI Outdoors  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2023
WI
Originally Posted by wr otis
Welded a lot of trapping stuff with lincoln stick welder.

I have a hobart like that also.

If you're going to mig parts, they need to be clean bare metal. Stick you can tolerate some rust.

Depends on the rod. Different rods for different purposes.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8448289
8 hours ago
8 hours ago
Joined: Mar 2019
Southern NJ
maintenanceguy Offline
trapper
maintenanceguy  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2019
Southern NJ
Hobart Handler 140. Miller or Lincoln make better welders at a much, much higher price. Harbor Freight makes junk at a lower price. Hobart is the Ford/Chevy that works for me. I have two different models of Hobart mig welders and both have been great. I have one set with a spool gun for aluminum and the other set up for mild or stainless. I keep four 90cf tanks of gas in my shop for different metals.

I have used flux core wire but welding with gas gives such a better weld. I did put both on harbor freight welding carts.

20250804_072733.jpg
Last edited by maintenanceguy; 8 hours ago.
Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: FL cracker in AK] #8448301
8 hours ago
8 hours ago
Joined: Jan 2012
Ohio
OhioBoy Offline
trapper
OhioBoy  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2012
Ohio
x2

Buy a 211, it is dual 110v / 220v.
There are three diameters of weld wire, set the knob for the one you have.
There is a setting for the thinnest material you are welding, it comes with a thickness gage, so set the knob to material thickness.
Get a gas bottle, I rent and refill mine from the supply house.

Get a descent auto tint helmet, Watch Youtube videos on stacking dimes and get good and seeing the puddle and moving it around.

Then its just practice, but that's literally all it takes.

It'd be easy to have $2,500 wrapped up in equipment, hard to justify for trap tuning, but then you can mig up to 3/8" of any steel material you needed to weld from then forward for you or anyone else.

$2500 / $50 = 50 $50 weld jobs to pay for the equipment... maybe 25 jobs would pay for half the equipment and the other half is moding your traps.

Welders need grinders for flap wheels and wire brushes. Clean material = good welds.

Anyway, that 211 is a good machine and easy enough to learn that I've taught myself to weld (with it) decently.

Good luck.


Originally Posted by FL cracker in AK
My Millermatic 211 has been an excellent machine, doesn't break the bank.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8448320
7 hours ago
7 hours ago
Joined: Jan 2023
Tennessee
S
Square Offline
trapper
Square  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Jan 2023
Tennessee
Another vote for the Millermatic 211

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: Big Sam] #8448343
6 hours ago
6 hours ago
Joined: Feb 2016
Kentucky
ky_coyote_hunter Offline
trapper
ky_coyote_hunter  Offline
trapper

Joined: Feb 2016
Kentucky
Like my Hobart Handler190....220V is the way to go, IMO.


Member - FTA
Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: FL cracker in AK] #8448348
6 hours ago
6 hours ago
Joined: Jan 2019
Northern IN USA
Flipper 56 Offline
trapper
Flipper 56  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2019
Northern IN USA
Originally Posted by FL cracker in AK
My Millermatic 211 has been an excellent machine, doesn't break the bank.

X2, love mine with gas


"Where Can A Man Find Bear Beaver And Other Critters Worth Cash Money When Skinned?"

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: maintenanceguy] #8448368
5 hours ago
5 hours ago
Joined: May 2010
alabama
BandB Offline
trapper
BandB  Offline
trapper

Joined: May 2010
alabama
Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
Hobart Handler 140. Miller or Lincoln make better welders at a much, much higher price. Harbor Freight makes junk at a lower price. Hobart is the Ford/Chevy that works for me. I have two different models of Hobart mig welders and both have been great. I have one set with a spool gun for aluminum and the other set up for mild or stainless. I keep four 90cf tanks of gas in my shop for different metals.

I have used flux core wire but welding with gas gives such a better weld. I did put both on harbor freight welding carts.


Just curious if you've actually used a Titanium welder or not?

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #8448412
4 hours ago
4 hours ago
Joined: Jun 2010
Iowa
~ADC~ Offline
The Count
~ADC~  Offline
The Count

Joined: Jun 2010
Iowa
Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Like my Hobart Handler190....220V is the way to go, IMO.

This is what I use, but for a guy starting out the 140 is plenty until he figures out if he even will use it IMO.

Re: Welder for a beginner? [Re: BandB] #8448508
1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Joined: Mar 2019
Southern NJ
maintenanceguy Offline
trapper
maintenanceguy  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2019
Southern NJ
No. I have used a harbor freight mig welder but it was probably an older line of welders before they branded them titanium

Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread