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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: warrior] #8448095
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… or if Stonewall would have survived


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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: coytrpr] #8448103
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Originally Posted by coytrpr
For all the southern confederacy apologists. Read the articles of secession of the southern states. White supremacy and maintaining the institution of slavery was the mantra for all of them. The failure of the US government to allow the US military to properly finish the job in 1865 and hang all the traitors has caused this country a lot of unnecessary grief that continues today. Sherman should have done multiple marches to the sea. Having spent significant time halfway around the world leading armed patrols in the dead of night where the US American soldier next to you was your brother regardless of his race or ethnicity just it makes it more infuriating to me for some of the racists on this forum to continue to be allowed to spew their slanted viewpoints. The Confederate flag to me, as an American veteran from a military family tracing service back to the revolutionary war, is no different than the Imperial Japanese or Nazi Germany battle flags. I'm quite sure the confederates on this site will continue their slanted version of "the cause". Unfortunately, you can't change a bigot's mind and the constitution which US soldiers defend lets them run their mouths. All I'm saying.


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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: Savell] #8448125
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Originally Posted by Savell
… or if Stonewall would have survived


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS!!!!!


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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: coytrpr] #8448137
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Originally Posted by coytrpr
For all the southern confederacy apologists. Read the articles of secession of the southern states. White supremacy and maintaining the institution of slavery was the mantra for all of them. The failure of the US government to allow the US military to properly finish the job in 1865 and hang all the traitors has caused this country a lot of unnecessary grief that continues today. Sherman should have done multiple marches to the sea. Having spent significant time halfway around the world leading armed patrols in the dead of night where the US American soldier next to you was your brother regardless of his race or ethnicity just it makes it more infuriating to me for some of the racists on this forum to continue to be allowed to spew their slanted viewpoints. The Confederate flag to me, as an American veteran from a military family tracing service back to the revolutionary war, is no different than the Imperial Japanese or Nazi Germany battle flags. I'm quite sure the confederates on this site will continue their slanted version of "the cause". Unfortunately, you can't change a bigot's mind and the constitution which US soldiers defend lets them run their mouths. All I'm saying.

Dang! Reads almost like you were there....the 1860s.

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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: warrior] #8448141
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Is this really how you guys feel?

Everything I've ever read indicated Lincolns accomplishments make him arguably one of the best presidents ever.

Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: Savell] #8448145
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Originally Posted by Savell
…. Good post

… Yankees ruined this country


Yup. Say, ain't Trump a yankee?


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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: Marty B] #8448146
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Originally Posted by Marty B
Is this really how you guys feel?

Everything I've ever read indicated Lincolns accomplishments make him arguably one of the best presidents ever.




History is written by the victors.


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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: warrior] #8448151
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In all fairness to Lincoln....he did hold the country together...thru our roughest years.



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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: beaverpeeler] #8448152
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Originally Posted by Savell
…. Good post

… Yankees ruined this country


Yup. Say, ain't Trump a yankee?

Trump is a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) yankee, came down here to live.

Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: warrior] #8448154
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… I changed my mind …. We’re much better off now

… thinking about taking a vacation to Atlanta

… I’ve heard it’s nice these days lol

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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: warrior] #8448165
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Originally Posted by warrior
He explores and goes into the whig/republican intent to create an all powerful federal power. Touches on the Jefferson/Hamilton debate. Provides historical content of Madison and the War of 1812. Lays out Lincoln's mentorship by Clay and the National Bank/High Tarriff policy of the Whig/Republican. Presents previous sessession crisis' such as New England in 1812. South Carolina nullification under Jackson.
Completely tosses out the "it was slavery" nonsense. Clearly demonstrates Lincoln's dictatorial actions leading up to and intentional hostile acts to trigger the war as an excuse to run roughshod over all.


The civil war was never about slavery.
Politicians later made it about slavery.
It was all about making the exports and imports equaled
The south had all the raw materials, and food products to ship out, while the north had mostly only manufactured products.
The government wanted more taxes put on the south , because the north needed more taxes to keep production of finished products going.
Farming has always been the back bone of any country.


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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: Marty B] #8448174
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Originally Posted by Marty B
Is this really how you guys feel?

Everything I've ever read indicated Lincolns accomplishments make him arguably one of the best presidents ever.





You read the approved version. Go dig a little and read what you're not supposed to.


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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: warrior] #8448177
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Or better yet. Read the US Constitution, Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers. Do some reading on the Constitutional Convention itself, particularly the concerns and debates of the states. Read Jefferson, Madison, and Adams.

Let that soak in good.

Now consider just how you would resolve things like National Banks. Forget about slavery. Plug in the real fights long before the radical abolitionists got things stirred up. The War of 1812 and the New England States refusal to provide troops and threats of Sessession. Yes, New England actually opposed defense of the nation in the face of a congressional declaration of war. How about Henry Clay vs Andrew Jackson over the National Bank.

Now you should begin to get it. It was never about slavery. It was all about federal power from the beginning.


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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: warrior] #8448179
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Savell
…. Multiculturalism has been bad for this country frown


As has public education.

I won't step into the civil war debate, I've done that enough here. But I agree about public school.

Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: warrior] #8448194
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Marty B
Is this really how you guys feel?

Everything I've ever read indicated Lincolns accomplishments make him arguably one of the best presidents ever.





You read the approved version. Go dig a little and read what you're not supposed to.


Warrior, are you starting to see the Elephant in the Room? If so, I am proud of you.


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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: warrior] #8448204
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It ain't a jew in the woodpile, if that's what you're asking. Israelites ain't got a monopoly on power grabbing.


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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: warrior] #8448232
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Warrior, I encourage you to continue taking one red pill at a time. The whole bottle would be better; it won't kill you, but rather wreck your foundation and in the end make you stronger.

I encourage you to take your own advice and "go dig a little deeper" and find out just who and what started the Whig Party? Who was involved in it and what were they pushing? Who was the force behind Lincoln and his tariffs on the south? Who was benefiting from it? Who was smuggling cotton from the south to the north? Who benefited the most from the South's destruction and the ability to have goods readily available?


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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: warrior] #8448291
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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: warrior] #8448292
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Re: Lincoln, Dictator Destroyer of the Constitution [Re: warrior] #8448293
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yet the lincoln hater mob still demonize any actual libertarian that runs for office or stands against the current GOP stance. And by libertarians i'm not talking about the ones that are the socialists that run the L party and just want drugs.

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