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PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction #8454041
08/14/25 08:22 AM
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I’ve heard a lot of people grumble about it because it may affect the Turkey population.
I don’t know how true that is. A friend of mine is always catching possum and coon in cage traps but she has a Hen with over a dozen poults walking around in her yard at the same time.
I would love to have pine marten around here. But they’ll still make us pursue them with footholds.
Def one of the prettiest furbearers.

I have yet to see a fisher so I’m not holding my breath about the martens


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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454042
08/14/25 08:25 AM
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Not going to happen,with the lack of game do we really need another predator

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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: wetdog] #8454045
08/14/25 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wetdog
Not going to happen,with the lack of game do we really need another predator


You have a lack of mice and small rodents?

Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454047
08/14/25 08:33 AM
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Donner, ferals ate em all.





Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8454048
08/14/25 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by wetdog
Not going to happen,with the lack of game do we really need another predator


You have a lack of mice and small rodents?

No, my point is we need to spend that money on helping rebuild the game animal population before we introduce another predator

Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454059
08/14/25 09:20 AM
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What wetdog said. With our depleted small game population we sure don’t need another predator right now.


Eh...wot?

Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454076
08/14/25 10:06 AM
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Five rabbits at once eyeing up my garden.
Plenty squirrels too. Grouse about extinct
and ringnecks don't count.
Chipmunks declined, must be snakes.
I hear groundhogs are scarce too.
Plenty here.
Pa is a big area with differing habitats.

The big timber folks North of I80
may want the martens?





Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: Lugnut] #8454077
08/14/25 10:09 AM
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What we need is a managed habitat introduction program to return the small game to a population that may and I said MAY support an introduced predator program. The key to a successful population of any living animal or plant is proper management by educated and again I said EDUCATED people to sustain proper HABITAT to support the main adjective. We have a long row to hoe to get back the habitat we have lost - nature needs balance - "build it and they will come."

Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454088
08/14/25 10:34 AM
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I'm all for it. Small game population? Seems to be on the up cycle. We have more rabbits and squirrels than I've seen for many years. Now, maybe you can control that with habitat to some degree. I'm doubtful. I think if you have martens habitat you'll be fine and probably never would have many in intensely farmed areas.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454096
08/14/25 10:47 AM
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My response is because of what fisher have done to the turkey's in my area
And the farming practices, that's a whole different issue

Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454111
08/14/25 11:18 AM
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Because of marten reintroduction efforts here, we have special trap restrictions in those areas:

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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454136
08/14/25 11:52 AM
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Another gimmick to sell people another permit to catch something we already paid to restore.

I refuse.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: k snow] #8454146
08/14/25 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by k snow
Because of marten reintroduction efforts here, we have special trap restrictions in those areas:

[Linked Image]


Limited trapping is what I would see as a likely, major drawback. I would not be surprised if PA closed off an entire area of the state for the margins to recover in after reintroduction.

A legal take on birds of prey would greatly help small game populations.

Keith

Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454147
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There’s hawks everywhere . I see them constantly while driving to work.

Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454152
08/14/25 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
There’s hawks everywhere . I see them constantly while driving to work.


Imagine how many millions of rabbits, squirrels, pheasants, quail, turkey poults and other game animals they eat a year in PA.

I once watched catch a Cooper's Hawk catch and eat an entire hatch of bobwhite chicks over the course of an hour. Birds of prey are a major cause in low small game numbers.

Keith

Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454155
08/14/25 12:39 PM
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While there at it may as well waste a pile of money and bring mountain lions back as well.

Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454162
08/14/25 12:47 PM
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Wonder the PTA stance on marten?





Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: The hammer] #8454166
08/14/25 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The hammer
While there at it may as well waste a pile of money and bring mountain lions back as well.

And the Timber Wolf

Owls are more of a problem in my area
Hawks aren't in large numbers around this area whistle

Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454168
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Eagles are cutting into the Redtail action over here.
They run the big rivers and the tribs.
Not seen 20 yrs ago, now old news.





Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction [Re: elsmasho82] #8454170
08/14/25 12:58 PM
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my opinion is our game commission has rocks for brains... thats all i have to say about that.

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