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Re: Trying To Understand Communism [Re: Foxpaw] #8458504
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Communism in the religion of the malcontent. A religion of anti humanity


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Re: Trying To Understand Communism [Re: Foxpaw] #8458505
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Did Joseph McCarthy make a difference ? Or did he just promote it by making it news worthy.

Re: Trying To Understand Communism [Re: Foxpaw] #8458509
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Penguins were originally called "arse-feet" due to their legs being positioned closer to their rear.

Penguins surely sounds more dignified ! Its all in the name I guess.

Re: Trying To Understand Communism [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8458517
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Jamestown was a proto-socialist settlement. They ditched that idea pretty quickly


Jonestown , was even worse , communism hidden under religion.
That idea died rather quick after it fell apart.
" Don't drink the Kool aid "


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Re: Trying To Understand Communism [Re: Foxpaw] #8458519
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Again,,,Russia and China are not communist. Both have embraced capitalism


Rebranding the communism of Russia and China as "State Capitalism" doesn't change what it is and how it works any more than rebranding illegal aliens as "undocumented immigrants" changes what they are. Rebranding is a trick used by politicians to fool the uninformed.

Re: Trying To Understand Communism [Re: Cragar] #8458524
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Originally Posted by Cragar
Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Jamestown was a proto-socialist settlement. They ditched that idea pretty quickly


Jonestown , was even worse , communism hidden under religion.
That idea died rather quick after it fell apart.
" Don't drink the Kool aid "

Dont confuse Jamestown with Plymouth.

Re: Trying To Understand Communism [Re: Foxpaw] #8458528
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The book "Animal Farm" explained it pretty well. "We are all equal........it's just that some are more equal than others".

Founding fathers........and their ancestors.........had lived under aristocratic rule used in Europe. Gentry and commoners. Were ruled by people whose sole claim to fame was they were lucky enough to have been born to right parents. So founders, wanting to avoid all that, set up our system of government based on individual rights and rule of law, where success or failure in life determined by one's own actions. That system has built USA into the most successful country in history of the world.

Problem with our system is there are people not motivated enough to succeed and after the communist / socialist stuff started showing up 100 years or so ago, people bought into the idea of something for nothing. If there are more people with that idea than the other, easy to get elected running on platform of "from those according to ability, to those according to need". Free cheese.

Loki may have been right. The human condition really may be we crave subjugation.........freedom and self sufficiency just too hard for most.

BTW, ever notice how many immigrants from all parts of the world come here and thrive? While those born here muddle along in squalor? Those immigrants come from societies where there is no social welfare system. No means of backup. Work or starve. They come here highly motivated, work hard and thrive. That is the reason they get credit for doing work nobody here will do. Our bunch, now dependent on welfare and such, only work hard at gaming the system for more free stuff.


Easy to vote your way into socialism, but impossible to vote your way out of it.
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Capitalism without nationalism of its participates is destructive to a nation. Profit before country or country before profit.

Re: Trying To Understand Communism [Re: Foxpaw] #8458544
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It is an economic system where the government owns the means of production. Plenty of this throughout the world including the U.S. Most countries consist of mixed economies with a mix of private and government ownership of the means of production.

"goods and services are distributed based on individual need, following the principle "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs"."

There is a ton of this going on these days.

Almost all government programs require you to prove how needy you are.

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Who is John Galt?
Re: Trying To Understand Communism [Re: spjones] #8458545
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Originally Posted by spjones



You asked about Putin and communism in the OP,,,,,,,and then posted this link


What’s up????

My take on that poll is that about 50% of Americans are just plain stupid; both left and right.


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Re: Trying To Understand Communism [Re: Yes sir] #8458576
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Social/communism look good on paper but never factor in two human traits, greed and laziness

All people are equals, except that some are more equal than the rest!.


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Re: Trying To Understand Communism [Re: Foxpaw] #8458586
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The Hutterites have a commune type of lifestyle system but under the “we all work for the colony” they want to better their life like any good capitalist does. Lots of side hustles going on for personal enrichment like any person.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Communists and socialists have one major, incredibly important similarity, they both should be fatally shot.

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The glaring fault with socialism/ communism/ marxism is that they oppress the human spirit.....That's why they never thrive long term.


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Re: Trying To Understand Communism [Re: Foxpaw] #8458672
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Isn't it true that communism had deeper beginnings than with Marx in the 1840's. Plato wrote the Republic in 375 BC. Plato had ideas about two forms of communism. One was communism of property and the other was communism of wives. Didn't he consider those as too personal and a distraction from ones loyalty to the state?

Was the early church socialist?

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