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Re: Why do churches not….?
[Re: 2zwudz]
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08/31/25 10:18 PM
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Mac McAtee
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We have churches up in the mountains that have snakes. If you show up and don't bring your own they'll loan you one.
NCTA, FTA, FBU,NTA
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Re: Why do churches not….?
[Re: 2zwudz]
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08/31/25 10:24 PM
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mink99
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Mark Driscoll Phillip Anthony Mitchell Josh Howerton
These among maybe a handful of others really preach, what seems to me to be, real biblical truth. I recommend people take a listen and decide for themselves.
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Re: Why do churches not….?
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08/31/25 10:36 PM
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KeithC
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You can for the most part drink snake venom safely, whether you believe in Jesus or not. Asian people frequently drink snake venom in some countries. It's not poisonous to drink. It needs injected into the blood stream to hurt you. Keith
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Re: Why do churches not….?
[Re: NorthwesternYote]
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08/31/25 10:54 PM
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WI Outdoors
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And since they were the very first Christian church, that all other Christian churches spawned from, the roots of all Christian churches are rotten. It's all about power over people and money.
Keith No, it's not "all about" power over people and money. There are many, many devout people of good faith who minister to the poor and try to spread their message of salvation. It is an institution comprised of people, and all people are sinners and some will definitely use whatever institutions they can as tools to their own benefit. But I can't think of any priests whom I've personally met who are trying to impose power over people or who are rolling in money. It sure is. Where do you think separation of church and state came from. Years ago, everything had to go through the church. The people had enough.
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Re: Why do churches not….?
[Re: 2zwudz]
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08/31/25 11:14 PM
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foxkidd44
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My church certainly does.
Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last. Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Why do churches not….?
[Re: 2zwudz]
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08/31/25 11:23 PM
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NorthwesternYote
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It sure is. Where do you think separation of church and state came from. Years ago, everything had to go through the church. The people had enough. The concept of separation of church and state (which, by the way, is not a phrase found in our Constitution, and some of the individual states did indeed have state-sponsored religions in the early days of the USA) came about because the kingdom the colonists were rebelling against had their own state religion established by Henry VIII. They still do. Catholics were also barred from public office in that kingdom.
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Re: Why do churches not….?
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08/31/25 11:48 PM
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We have churches up in the mountains that have snakes. If you show up and don't bring your own they'll loan you one. ^ He ain't lying.
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Re: Why do churches not….?
[Re: 2zwudz]
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09/01/25 08:33 AM
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How come no one is explaining why they dont drink poison and play with venomous snakes? Who is laying on hands and curing cancer? When I was a kid I was told the laying on of hands did not work because my young cousin did not have faith. It was his fault he died in agony at 14 years old.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Why do churches not….?
[Re: 2zwudz]
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09/01/25 08:35 AM
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danny clifton
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If the poison, snakes and faith healing is not truth, how do you know what is?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Why do churches not….?
[Re: danny clifton]
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09/01/25 08:44 AM
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How come no one is explaining why they dont drink poison and play with venomous snakes? Who is laying on hands and curing cancer? When I was a kid I was told the laying on of hands did not work because my young cousin did not have faith. It was his fault he died in agony at 14 years old. My great aunt in the 50's died from appendicitis because her holy roller faith healer husband wouldn't take her to a doctor. After that every time he got a pain he would go to the doctor. He wasn't a favorite in-law of our family.
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Re: Why do churches not….?
[Re: 2zwudz]
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09/01/25 08:51 AM
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Too many churches consider themselves a hotel for saints, not a hospital for sinners and act accordingly.
Got a photo from a speeding camera in the mail. I immediately sent it back - way too expensive and really poor quality.
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Re: Why do churches not….?
[Re: danny clifton]
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09/01/25 08:56 AM
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Providence Farm
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If the poison, snakes and faith healing is not truth, how do you know what is? When mom was a kid she had a ton of warts and some other problems. Someone brought out a faith healer and it all went away. Now I dont expect you to believe a guy on the internet but I sure as heck do believe my mom's first hand personal account. As far as your cousin and what sounds like a fraud. Well sometimes we pray God always answers Maybe not on our time frame or how we are thinking and sometimes the answer is no. It sure was no when my son was killed dont ask me why. But I will see him again.
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Re: Why do churches not….?
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09/01/25 09:02 AM
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Too many churches consider themselves a hotel for saints, not a hospital for sinners and act accordingly. Well said. Not one of us is worthy and nothing we can do on our own will make us worthy. We have to accept the gift of salvation freely offered to us through Jesus sacrifice. Just becust people are Christian does not mean they are now perfect and no longer sin. We do and do so often . the difference is repentance and trying to do better . If any of us were perfect or could be Jesus would not have had to come be tempted, humiliated, beaten, and killed.
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Re: Why do churches not….?
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09/01/25 09:04 AM
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Trapper7
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If the poison, snakes and faith healing is not truth, how do you know what is? When mom was a kid she had a ton of warts and some other problems. Someone brought out a faith healer and it all went away. Now I dont expect you to believe a guy on the internet but I sure as heck do believe my mom's first hand personal account. As far as your cousin and what sounds like a fraud. Well sometimes we pray God always answers Maybe not on our time frame or how we are thinking and sometimes the answer is no. It sure was no when my son was killed dont ask me why. But I will see him again. Interesting about warts. My daughter had many warts on her hands. She tried some over the counter recipes which didn't help. I had read where some claimed ginseng had cured their warts. So, I got some ginseng capsules from a grower in WI. Within about two months her warts started disappearing. Within about 6 months she was wart free.
Got a photo from a speeding camera in the mail. I immediately sent it back - way too expensive and really poor quality.
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Re: Why do churches not….?
[Re: KeithC]
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09/01/25 09:11 AM
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![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/09/full-49774-267927-20250901_070147_resized.jpg) Keith, These churches existed in the 1st century. Revelation 1:4 I'm not sure where you get the idea all churches begin with The Catholic Church.
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