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09/03/25 01:56 PM
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Hello, I am going to set up some traps for cats "victor 3 DLS" so I'm wondering about chain type and length. I want to doble stake or run drags, so I was thinking about a foot of number 3 strait link with 4 swivel points and 8 feet of 2/0 twist link and a chestnut rig with a quick link at the end and a few swivels in between.

Or should I do shorter chain?

Love to hear you toughs, thank you in advance.


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Re: Chain [Re: Outdoor todd] #8463168
09/03/25 02:15 PM
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the more the merrier on chain length for drags. on staked traps 24inches of overall chain is plenty. some prefer a lot less. plenty of swivels to. I prefer 3

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Re: Chain [Re: Outdoor todd] #8463202
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Is that going to be a problem with long springs? because I am worried about the springs getting caught and the trap not swiveling.


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Hard staking short chains just to be clear.


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Re: Chain [Re: Outdoor todd] #8463280
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Agree with Flint in his description. I run #3 double long springs on yotes and cats and at least ten foot of #3 chain with a bare minimum of 4 J hook swivels . Works great and will tangle up quickly with a good digging drag. As far as double stake . Keep chain two feet long. Room for em to move around but no so short they could pump out stakes in Texas soil.

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great thank you


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Re: Chain [Re: Outdoor todd] #8463740
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Personally I would use at least 8-10' of #3 chain for drags. My setup is 1' of #5 chain off drag + swivel + 8.3' (100'/12 = 8.3') of #3 hooked to trap chain... The heavier the chain, the better the drag stays down.

For staking, I would recommend at least 18" or so...


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Re: Chain [Re: Outdoor todd] #8463806
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how could I get them not to tear up the set without drag or slide wires because I don't want a lot of weight?


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Re: Chain [Re: Outdoor todd] #8463815
09/04/25 05:43 PM
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Outdoor Todd I always reset a staked trap after I catch a coyote. But I will put in another set a few feet outside of the catch circle just for a backup. I don't see a lot of refusals to catch circles here where I'm at. Your area may be a little different though.

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Re: Chain [Re: Outdoor todd] #8464068
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I plan on walk through sets for cats.


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And blind sets.


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Re: Chain [Re: Outdoor todd] #8464680
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I use #2 twist link chain on most my drags for cats and coyotes. Fantastic setup for me. Doesn’t tangle, stronger than straight link, and not over heavy.


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How many swivels?


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I use 2 swivels near the trap and one at the drag.


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Some have another swivel on the middle. I don’t remember why but some do.


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Thank you!


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Personally I don't see the advantage of swivels more than a couple to three feet from the trap in a drag situation. Most times when I come up on an animal caught on a drag the chain is tangled up in the brush within at most a couple feet from the trap, which means any swivels downstream from there aren't doing anything. That being said, I have a bunch of my drags with a big wolf swivel attaching the chain to the drag. That isn't because I desired the swiveling effect, but it is because I had a bunch of wolf swivels laying around when I was making drags, and I don't like them next to the trap because they make it more difficult to bed, and they were a very convenient connection device to attach the chain to the drag.

While I have a few traps with long chains attached (8'-10') I far prefer a short chain on the trap and the long chain attached to the drag. That way I don't have all that chain to pack around and conceal/bury if I am staking the trap rather than using a drag. If I am going to use a drag I just grab one with chain attached (8-11') and using a quick link attach it to the end of the trap chain. Most of my traps have a chained earth anchor attached, so from baseplate to earth anchor averages 30"-36" (I've got some coyote traps with considerably less chain, I bought some with only 6"-8" chains, and simply added a chained earth anchor, but I found that very short chain to be a real pain to deal with while setting). By attaching the drag chain in the first link above the earth anchor I have anywhere from 11'-14' of chain. The longer the chain the faster that drag will hang up. Occasionally in very open country, which I seldom trap, I will either add another chunk of chain, or use one of my few traps with 8' of chain attached, giving myself anywhere from 16' to over 20' of chain, to facilitate hook up in areas with minimal obstacles for that drag to hook up on.

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When I trapped wolverine in Alaska, I would build natural cubbies using dead spruce and alder as a frame, then cover that with spruce and hemlock boughs. A proper cubbie took time, and not just any old place would do, as southeast Alaska's weather was a constant battle, with freeze-thaw considerations a priority to manage. And securing a trap that would keep a wolverine where I could find it after getting caught in a trap meant, at least for me, securing it to something solid. I never considered using drags, even though there is brush aplenty where I trapped, (it was so dense, an animal could easily "vanish" in it), there was also open tide flats and beach, and if a wolverine made it there, I would never find it.
I learned the hard way that chaining the trap to a nearby tree resulted in a demolished cubbie, as well as a very large excavation where the cubbie used to be. So, when selecting a place to build a wolverine set, I would obviously want to find a place that I thought a wolverine would happen by in its extensive travels. Then I wanted ample material for the cubbie. And then, not only a proper tree to anchor the trap, but another tree about 5'-6' away from the set. That tree was specifically for the wolverine to wrap the chain around, preventing destruction of the cubbie, and reducing the backhoe effect those buggers are so adept at.
I always had a crunch-proof or wolf swivel welded to the D-ring at the trap, then about 6" of #5 straight link chain with another swivel welded shut. From that swivel, I attached 10' of chain, which was a pre-made shot consisting of a quick-link, 6" of chain, a swivel, then 9-1/2' of chain, ending in another quick-link.
The trap-end would get attached to the short-chain-swivel end of the shot of chain, and the other end got wrapped around the anchor tree, near, (or usually part of), the cubbie.
Every single thing between the cubbie and the tree designated as the "wrap up tree" was removed. I wanted nothing possible to hang that chain other than that smallish tree.
It worked pretty much every time. The gulo would get pinched, spin around and run, hit the end of the chain, and run in a circle, pulling away and wrap up. It was obvious from the spun-up chain that after one wrap, it would roll and spin, then do another wrap, etc., until it was wound up within a foot or two to the tree. Those swivels close to, and attached to the trap itself, were the only things actually swiveling.
And most "swivels" aren't really that good at spinning freely. Take your set-up out to the yard and secure it to a tree. Then snap your trap onto a stick the size of a coyote leg and do what you think a trapped coyote would do. Then observe just what each of those swivels you think you need is really doing. Swivels mid-chain on long shots are un-necessary. Swivels on the business end are important, and near the anchor end are equally important. All these other "formulas" are non-sense.


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