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Simmer down there, Yes Sir, lol. While Dirt's post had nothing to do with the topic at hand as far as I can see, it wasn't political, it was economical.
Actually, I think that was the news that Trump was trying to distract from?
Who is John Galt?
Re: Defending the 2A
[Re: Yes sir]
#8464634 09/06/2509:58 AM09/06/2509:58 AM
"The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) has again handed President Donald Trump an even bleaker set of jobs numbers, just one month after he fired the agency's commissioner over weak employment data.
On Friday morning, the BLS reported that nonfarm payroll employment rose by only 22,000 in August. Analysts had forecast the economy adding 75,000 jobs during the month. According to the agency, gains made in health care were offset by losses in federal government employment, as well as mining, quarrying, and oil and gas extraction.
While July's figures were revised up to 79,000 from 73,000, June's numbers were revised down by 27,000, dropping from 14,000 to negative 13,000. Meanwhile, the unemployment rate edged up to 4.3 percent from 4.2 percent."
Newsweek
Mods i request he get a vacation for politics outside of the 2A topic.... At least remove the post for. Intentional attempt at derailing a 2A thread
It's actually on topic. This tranny 2A issue (which is indeed an unconstitutional concept) was floated by Dear Leader as a distraction from the abysmal economic data that Dirt posted, other bad economic data, and, don't forget, the Epstein list.
How many mass shootings occurred before and after the closure of state nervous hospitals? The firearm is not the problem but the treatment methods for the mentally ill is the problem.
I will go farther and add Social media affecting how people preceve the world around them. We are more digitally connected and have less physical interaction and communication than ever before.
Its easy for the weak minded and gullible to be nudge into action.
Re: Defending the 2A
[Re: Dirt]
#8464666 09/06/2511:02 AM09/06/2511:02 AM
"The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) has again handed President Donald Trump an even bleaker set of jobs numbers, just one month after he fired the agency's commissioner over weak employment data.
On Friday morning, the BLS reported that nonfarm payroll employment rose by only 22,000 in August. Analysts had forecast the economy adding 75,000 jobs during the month. According to the agency, gains made in health care were offset by losses in federal government employment, as well as mining, quarrying, and oil and gas extraction.
While July's figures were revised up to 79,000 from 73,000, June's numbers were revised down by 27,000, dropping from 14,000 to negative 13,000. Meanwhile, the unemployment rate edged up to 4.3 percent from 4.2 percent."
Newsweek
HOLY CRAP!!! You mean 4.3 people out of 100 don't have a job!!! Oh the humanity!!!
I love when those with TDS point to something that was labeled and presented by the msm as dire and horrible and a "threat to democracy" but when numbers and facts from those msm idiots are analyzed, intelligent people laugh and shake their head at how dishonest the media is and how gullible those with TDS truly are.
Again, I am giggling and shaking my head at the same time.
Either way, PRESIDENT TRUMP is a genius in how he plays the left and TDS sufferers. I don't know which one lefties and left wing kooks hate more. Rush Limbaugh or PRESIDENT TRUMP. I absolutely love typing PRESIDENT TRUMP. It is most definitely a trigger.
My request is when anyone refers to PRESIDENT TRUMP, for your own entertainment, please type in all caps. Just to see the reaction. It is cheap quality entertainment.
How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Defending the 2A
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#8464673 09/06/2511:22 AM09/06/2511:22 AM
True, but is the criteria regarding mental health reflected in the questions on the ATF form 4473 law actually passed by congress or is it regulation crafted by BATFE? Perhaps you know but I don't. If it is just regulation Trump can drive a change providing it doesn't conflict with the law. In any case, what Trump has done is keep focus on how mental health screening is being done in the NICS process. I see that as a good thing because the current process is obviously not working to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill intent on murder.
The 4473 doesn't ask if you have a mental illness. It asks two specific questions.
1. Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective? (Only a judge can determine this, on an individual basis.The executive branch cannot adjudicate anything, let alone declare an entire class of people mentally defective).
2. Have you ever been committed to a mental institution? (Again, this is done by a judge on an individual basis. The executive branch does not have the power to commit anyone to a mental institution).
It does not matter if you have a mental health condition, including gender dysphoria. It only matters if you've been adjudicated mentally defective or have been committed to a mental health institution.
The "all people that suffer from X mental health condition shouldn't be able to purchase a firearm" is the same reasoning used by Democrats to say all vets with PTSD shouldn't be allowed to purchase a firearm.
The 4473 doesn't ask if you have a mental illness. It asks two specific questions.
1. Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective? (Only a judge can determine this, on an individual basis.The executive branch cannot adjudicate anything, let alone declare an entire class of people mentally defective).
2. Have you ever been committed to a mental institution? (Again, this is done by a judge on an individual basis. The executive branch does not have the power to commit anyone to a mental institution).
It does not matter if you have a mental health condition, including gender dysphoria. It only matters if you've been adjudicated mentally defective or have been committed to a mental health institution.
The "all people that suffer from X mental health condition shouldn't be able to purchase a firearm" is the same reasoning used by Democrats to say all vets with PTSD shouldn't be allowed to purchase a firearm.
How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
It only matters if you've been adjudicated mentally defective or have been committed to a mental health institution.
Exactly right, and that is part of the problem. Implemented in 1998, the impact of the closure of most mental health institutions that had occured over the prior decades was not recognized. Many who walk the streets today would have been placed in institutions in the early 1980s. New criteria are needed and perhaps a deeper dive into specific groups with mental health issues (gender dysphoria, PTSD,...). That's not saying all in a particular group should be banned. That would be discriminatory, but perhaps further evaluation is justified. A time limit is still needed to prevent bureacratic abuse.
