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Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465019
09/07/25 05:13 AM
09/07/25 05:13 AM
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South Ga - Almost Florida
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Kansas has sure got some good'uns!


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Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465046
09/07/25 07:27 AM
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Mr. Swamp, I’m expecting some changes any day now. Been holding onto this bachelor group since April.

Have you ever considered adding brassicas to your Fall plots? That’s been my go to for the last 6 years.

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Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465089
09/07/25 09:37 AM
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Dang Gunnleg.Nice Group.I plant the mossy oak biologic It does have brassicas in it.I tried something the other day called wildgame Treat in a 50.lb bag.it consist of dried molasses.and corn .The bucks walked by the corn to eat it.

Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465179
09/07/25 01:58 PM
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Gunnleg,
I've planted rape and turnips in the past. Might add them to the mix this time.

There are a couple good'uns in that group. Hope they stick around for you!


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Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465191
09/07/25 02:18 PM
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These two pics are a half mile apart. Same bucks...48 hours.

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Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465210
09/07/25 02:38 PM
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Last year I know of a 200+ inch buck in this area that was shot in December 17 miles as the crow flys from where it had numerous pics of it taken in September. At first my thought was someone had poached it and then claimed they shot it on their property but my wife's uncle is their neighbor and saw it at his place a couple days before and heard them shot and was over the 10 minutes later taking pics of it.

Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465212
09/07/25 02:44 PM
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My boy's big buck spent the summer about 5 miles away from where we hunt and only seemed to move into our area towards the end of rut and would stay until it shed its antlers.

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This buck was on cameras 5 miles apart with a Highway in between weekly

Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Yes sir] #8465214
09/07/25 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Last year I know of a 200+ inch buck in this area that was shot in December 17 miles as the crow flys from where it had numerous pics of it taken in September. At first my thought was someone had poached it and then claimed they shot it on their property but my wife's uncle is their neighbor and saw it at his place a couple days before and heard them shot and was over the 10 minutes later taking pics of it.

Ive read some research about bucks shifting seasonal ranges that far.

Down here in my neck of the woods I know of several instances of 1 to 1.5 miles and a couple that pushed 3 miles. Im sure there are many double digit miles shifts that we never know about.


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Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465217
09/07/25 02:50 PM
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A 2 or 3 miles daily "home" range is not to uncommon around here with mature bucks. Our deer habitat around here is pretty narrow and linear with big chunks of open terrain in between so that's a big factor

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Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Yes sir] #8465218
09/07/25 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
My boy's big buck spent the summer about 5 miles away from where we hunt and only seemed to move into our area towards the end of rut and would stay until it shed its antlers.

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This buck was on cameras 5 miles apart with a Highway in between weekly

Makes one wonder what the open terrain in Kansas (or elsewhere) has to do with long travel distances during seasonal shifts.

More open = longer travel distance.

More cover = less travel distance.

Im not sure about this....just guessing.


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Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Yes sir] #8465224
09/07/25 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
A 2 or 3 miles daily "home" range is not to uncommon around here with mature bucks


True. Most of what Im seeing is likely seasonal range after the shift. Several bucks seem to never leave. Others are only around in velvet. Others arrive in early fall and stay until early spring.


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Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465226
09/07/25 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Yes sir
A 2 or 3 miles daily "home" range is not to uncommon around here with mature bucks


True. Most of what Im seeing is likely seasonal range after the shift. Several bucks seem to never leave. Others are only around in velvet. Others arrive in early fall and stay until early spring.

They are all individuals that's for sure. I added to the post above about our habitat likely being an influence

Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465244
09/07/25 03:29 PM
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Great pics and great discussion.

Yes Sir, from this pics, I reckon that’s why you hear so much about Kansas.

Mr. Swamp, if you get crazy, try you some tillage radish (called daikon radish as well). I prefer that 10-1 over turnips.

I like your oat mixture, problem is I’m a little bit North of you and they seem to really fall off after the first frost.

Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: GUNNLEG] #8465276
09/07/25 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GUNNLEG
Great pics and great discussion.

Yes Sir, from this pics, I reckon that’s why you hear so much about Kansas.

Mr. Swamp, if you get crazy, try you some tillage radish (called daikon radish as well). I prefer that 10-1 over turnips.

I like your oat mixture, problem is I’m a little bit North of you and they seem to really fall off after the first frost.

Done some short reading on the daikon radish. Problem is finding it in small enough bags for my needs. I have about 5 acres in about 7 plots that will be fall planted.


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Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465280
09/07/25 04:27 PM
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If the postage wasn’t so bad, I’d send you some.

I’m sure that you’ve perfected what you have going on. I just finished up everything, just need some dang rain. It’s been silly dry for the last few weeks.

Hope you see some more good deer cycle in. I can’t believe that we’re only several weeks away from bow season here in VA. Each year seems to fly by faster.

Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465296
09/07/25 04:59 PM
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Appreciate the offer. What are you paying up your way for the radish seed? I found some down here for $51 but no bag size mentioned. If that's 50 lbs....I definitely won't need that much to use in a mix.

You've got me doing a bit more search on it. Seems the radishes like loamy, well drained soils and are drought tolerant....might fit well in most of my small fields.

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Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465310
09/07/25 05:29 PM
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Mr Swamp, I pay about $2.50-$3 / lb. You had mentioned having sandy soil before, that’s why I brought it up. I’ve found them to be preferred by the deer amongst most anything else I’ve planted other than standing beans before they’ve been harvested. Much more later in the season however.

If you’re worried about extra seed, I always carry seed over at least one season, if not 2 in some cases. I ziptie the bag of seed in a heavy duty plastic bag and just store it in the garage. I’ve still got cereal rye from 4 years ago left. Bought 1000 lbs at the time for next to nothing.

Savell, any respectable Southerner knows that a Ceasar salad ain’t got no radishes in it. Dont let them Austin boys influence your better judgement. grin

Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465415
09/07/25 08:24 PM
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Got this guy on my cameras lately…..hoping he sticks around

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Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8465424
09/07/25 08:31 PM
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Don’t blame you. Great buck.

Re: Fall Shuffle (Whitetails) [Re: Tony1967] #8465425
09/07/25 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony1967
Got this guy on my cameras lately…..hoping he sticks around

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Great buck. How long before u can start hunting him?

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