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Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8467453
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Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8467475
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Where is the rifle in the pics of the person?
He was going up the stairs and reportedly jumped off the roof when he fled.
So if that's the shooter in the pics the rifle had to be on him.
Only possible way I could see concealing the gun they claimed was used would be removing the action from the stock but I'm not sure you could do it even then the way that person was dressed.
Im starting to wonder if this wasn't a well planned hit. You got a person asking him about trans shootings when he was shot ( maybe a huge coincidence) the first person arrested was reported hollering "I'd do it again" when being arrested and one guy walking around with a bb gun getting arrested. If your going shot someone and was worried about a bullet proof vest a neck shot would be logical. And if you were planning on getting away with it why inscripe anything on the cartridges?

Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8467587
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Law Dog or anyone else, when ballistics are done on a suspected weapon, do they also shoot it for distance to see if it's sighted accurately? Or just shoot a round into a barrel to match bullets?

Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: Brian Mongeau] #8467588
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Originally Posted by Brian Mongeau
Law Dog or anyone else, when ballistics are done on a suspected weapon, do they also shoot it for distance to see if it's sighted accurately? Or just shoot a round into a barrel to match bullets?



Sometimes, yes.


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Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8467591
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If the bullets useable that would be the proof they need to charge with the along with the other evidence the accuracy would not matter they will get his skill level through his interview if he’s caught alive.


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Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8467596
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Thanks, was just curious if it would be pertinent to the investigation, maybe like if it gave a clue to skill level and who to look for.

Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8467597
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They will go after military based rounds , hard to find those that aren't in same way based on old military rounds. 30.06 was used in ww1 .

Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8467645
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No gun is safe if the dems get their way.


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Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8467709
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The Dems aren't likely to say one word about the gun at all. Going after that style of gun, or mentioning anything at all about guns will just keep this story alive. They want this story to go away as quickly as possible.

Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8467715
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BTW, the Colorado school shooter a day or so ago used a revolver that he was able to reload several times. We probably won't hear much about this fact in the msm since it doesn't fit their narrative either.


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Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8467745
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Due to pixelation, I can’t really see the rings and bases, but they appear to be a set of Leopoldrings mounted on a set of reversible Bases this would put the front ring over the front end of the ejection portthe safety appears to be a cheap Briley which is a 60° throw instead of the original 180° throw. This would result in a fully functional and sighttable rifle. If it was in fact, a 30 – 06 that would require a barrel swap. if economy was still a factor that could be accomplished by buying a short chambered 30 caliber Mauser barrel from a gunsmithing supply store a Reamer could be rented for about 35 or $40 and a headspace go gauge no lathe required. if it was in fact, a 8 mm-06 which was a fairly common sporterization then the appropriate chamber Reamer and go gauge would be all that would be required plus a set of reloading dies, and presswhich would enable the gun to fire 8 mm bullets with 30-06 brass.
And G C P I think you may be thinking of a Yugoslavian Mauser commonly referred to as a Yugo and not a Turk.
All of this is pure speculation based upon a very poor picture preventing any accurate determination. or guesstimation.

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Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8467750
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Oswald used a Swiss Army Rifle.
Booth used a single shot black powder pistol

the person
not the weapon

Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: mole] #8467769
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Originally Posted by mole
Oswald used a Swiss Army Rifle.
Booth used a single shot black powder pistol

the person
not the weapon



Correct sir. But, you’re a logical person who can use your brain.

Those who are anti gun are usually not rational people and the majority have no clue about the firearms they hate so dearly. They couldn’t tell you the difference between either of the tools you stated above.


Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!

Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8467868
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Right after the shooting was announced, saw a person on the left state this was another example why we need to limit magazines and assault rifles. Really? This was determined with only one shot fired!


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Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: Trapper7] #8467876
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Right after the shooting was announced, saw a person on the left state this was another example why we need to limit magazines and assault rifles. Really? This was determined with only one shot fired!

They have a script and they'll follow it every time

Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: nvwrangler] #8467899
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Originally Posted by nvwrangler
They will go after military based rounds , hard to find those that aren't in same way based on old military rounds. 30.06 was used in ww1 .

And in the Nam as well. Carlos Hathcock also named White Feather used a Winchester Model 70 chambered in
30-06 to be considered one of the best snipers ever..
And not to be too much of a knit picker, the rifle that Oswald used was not a 6.5 Swede but was in fact a 6.5 Carcano, which was an Italian cartridge.


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Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8467914
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In any event, Godspeed and RIP Charlie, Kirk
I consider him to be one of the greatest minds of the 20th century his recall and knowledge base was simply phenomenal


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Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: cmcf] #8467953
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Originally Posted by cmcf
Due to pixelation, I can’t really see the rings and bases, but they appear to be a set of Leopoldrings mounted on a set of reversible Bases this would put the front ring over the front end of the ejection portthe safety appears to be a cheap Briley which is a 60° throw instead of the original 180° throw. This would result in a fully functional and sighttable rifle. If it was in fact, a 30 – 06 that would require a barrel swap. if economy was still a factor that could be accomplished by buying a short chambered 30 caliber Mauser barrel from a gunsmithing supply store a Reamer could be rented for about 35 or $40 and a headspace go gauge no lathe required. if it was in fact, a 8 mm-06 which was a fairly common sporterization then the appropriate chamber Reamer and go gauge would be all that would be required plus a set of reloading dies, and presswhich would enable the gun to fire 8 mm bullets with 30-06 brass.
And G C P I think you may be thinking of a Yugoslavian Mauser commonly referred to as a Yugo and not a Turk.
All of this is pure speculation based upon a very poor picture preventing any accurate determination. or guesstimation.


you are correct I was thinking yugo

there were a lot of people building mausers with 30-06 barrels , see them in the used rack often around here

golden state in the 50s and 60s made piles of rebuilt mausers on the cheap

very common to see things like the pictured rifle used around here. someone was building a bench gun at some point

back when Kmart had a barrel of mausers in the isle guys would make them into all sorts of things.
lots of old machinists around here that enjoyed shooting on weekends and were tighter with a dollar than people can imagine today


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Re: Are "sniper rifles" next? [Re: waggler] #8468030
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What kind of guns they go after is always brought up first, why not be addressing the real reasons why so many that do the shootings, this is the big problem, the gun is the tool they choose to what in their mind will fix the problem they have have drawn a conclusion as how to fix it.

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what we are being told by doj is that there is a growing sub culture of internet and dark web folks that glorify this type of violence , almost a cult like following that more than one school shooter in the last several years has been on.

I guess , figuring out and tracking these people is probably the next step but with multiple vpns and that there may be thousands of them but only a handful of actors each year.

apparently the Madison abundant life shooter was part of this web following.


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